I don't know why any of you feign concern for the next generation. What have they ever done for you? Nothing like a little global desolation to teach people to respect what they could have had if they hadn't wanted something else more or weren't motivated solely to live according to the Jones. Then again what have the Jones ever done for you that deserves such attention and emulation. Sheeple.

To add to my last post, the rate of glacial melt described by Perseus for Greenland between 1996 and 2005 is only 11%. Unlike Perseus, I cannot blame a late night, so I can only vouch for my own stupidity as a reason for this oversight. So, by changing the melt rate in my spreadsheet model to 11%, I note that the ice is all gone by 2080, thus giving another generation the chance to build a snowman there before the whole place is decked out in resorts replete with obscenely underdressed old sots untidily thrown over banana lounges. As for all the other resorts, they sould prove to be very interesting places to visit. Anyone for snorkeling?

Clearly, Al Gore, the IPCC, the Stern report, Tim Flannery etc etc are all wrong about climate change and Perseus is right.

I'm so relieved and impressed that right here in our midst we have such a visionary thinker.

Aqvarivs and perseus:
"You must unlearn what you have learned. Once you start down the dark path, forever will it dominate your destiny, consume you it will..."
Yoda-

CJMorgan, Fester, Julatron:
"May the force be with you."

Fester, some people should simply stick to believing what other people tell them rather than thinking about things for themselves, and you are certainly one of the former.

The current melt rate is not 11% per year. It is 129/2,500,000 which is 0.0000516 or 0.00516%. And to extrapolate from the last two decades of data is totally wrong because it is the warming half of a 40 year temperature wave in Arctic temperatures that went from warm to cold and warm again.

And what incredible sophistry by Morgan to claim that the act of criticising the reliance on models would preclude someone from actually checking the basic data. Have you ever asked yourself why it is that the scare merchants never give enough hard facts to allow people to check the veracity of what is being claimed?

No, I guess you never have and never will. Thats why we call it Gullible Warming.

Persesus your assumption that the melt rate is remaining constant is at odds with the observed reality so your calculations, no matter how well you count are perfectly meaningless. There is no need for the ice to melt cause sea level rise the ice has only to slip into the sea. If you must use such a folksy info sources as google I trust you take care to exclude info from organisations funded by Exxon Mobile, 42 at the last count. You may find the list in last copies of the back copies of Independant online.
If you walk like a duck and talk like a duck it is reasonable that people think you are a duck. My question asking are you working for Exxon Mobile is valid. I am so pleased that you are an independant climate change denier. I note that in one of your missives you mention we. Who is we?
I think it is time we dismissed the mindless drivel cobbled together by "paper back scientists" and got on with the job of curbing our bad habits. If one seeks to limit waste of energy and materials the worse thing that can happen is it will cost less to live and then we can work less. This leaves more time for friends and family as well as lessening our footprint on the planet. A win-win alround.