Historical (non-christian) evidence that Jesus existed and performed miricles

Roman historian Josephus (.93 C.E.)
"Now, there was about this time Jesus, a wise man [if it be lawful to call him a man], for he was a doer of wonderful works, a teacher of such men as receive the truth with pleasure. He drew over to him both many of the Jews, and many of the Gentiles. [He was the Messiah.] And when Pilate, at the suggestion of the principal men amongst us, had condemned him to the cross, those that loved him at the first did not forsake him [for he appeared to them alive again at the third day; as the divine prophets had foretold these and ten thousand other wonderful things concerning him]. And the tribe of Christians, so named from him, are not extinct at this date.

Pliny the Younger c.111-117 C.E.)
"...they maintained that their fault or error amounted to nothing more than this: they were in the habit of meeting on a certain fixed day before sunrise and reciting an antiphonal hymn to Christ as God, and binding themselves with an oath not to commit any crime, but to abstain from all acts of theft, robbery and adultery, from breaches of faith, from repudiating a trust when called upon to honour it."

Tacitus Roman Annals (c.115-117 C.E.)
"They got their name from Christ, who was executed by sentence of the procurator Pontius Pilate in the reign of Tiberius. That checked the pernicious superstition for a short time, but it broke out afresh--not only in Judea, where the plague first arose, but in Rome itself, where all the horrible and shameful things in the world collect and find a home."

The state of the planet can also be traced back to people who wear cloths or eat meat or have hair.

If you are so concerend about the impact of religion on world then why not go and gather some real evidence to support your case.

Proverbs, All your 'quotes' are hearsay, written from one to two hundred years after the purported event! Check the Roman records from Jerusalem from 30BCE to 1CE and see what you find... Zero!

The reason why Christians opinions are so depised is because the Light came into the world but men loved darkness more. Truth exposes the error. Whether it is the fallacy of evolution or the killing of unborn babies people don't like to face up to their own sinfulness. Many god haters are happy to appease Islam because along with humanisn it is a false religion. They hate Christ simply because He spoke the truth. People also know that one day they will face judgement but prefer not to think about it or deny it. The good news is that while you are still alive you have the opportunity to repent and turn to the only One who can save your soul.

Jesus was a relativley insignificant character and not really worth writing about during his lifetime.

The gospels were written by people who knew jesus first hand. Assuming they exagerated what he did. If they they made up a fictitious character, then why are there no reports from that era refuting his existence. Why not say they were visited by an angel like those who started mormanism? Its a lot harder to disprove

After Christianity grew so rapidly historians started recording details about Jesus. Some of those who wrote about him acctually despised the Christians and had nothing to gain be perpetuating a lie. They never denied his existance.

Jesus died between 29AD and 36AD. Josephus was born in 37AD and wrote about Jesus in 93AD, 56 years after his death. Other mentions of Jesus came 80 to 100 years after his death. It would have been very easy for any of those writers to find local records and individuals to verify what they wrote. Just because their sources are not around 2000 years later does not mean that they did not exist at the time.

It is hard to imagine that people from various backgrounds (including supporters and opponents) would collaberate to make false statements about stuff that happened 50 to 90 years ago and there not be on single document renouncing those reports?.

Try making up a story about a guy who lived 50 to 100 years ago, who traveled the country performing miraicles, raising the dead and healing the sick. Who was killed by the local authorities who confirmed his death, supervised his burial and put an 24 hour armed guard on the grave. Dispite this he was reported to have risen from the dead three days later and was seen by thousands over a six week period. Now try presenting that as fact and posting it on Wikipedia. How long would it take before we saw all sorts of documents and first hand reports from people in the area saying it never happened and the person never existed?

Pericles
True, Jesus was a minor character and not really worth writing about during his lifetime.

Also true, the gospels were written by people who knew Jesus.

However, Assuming the writers of the New Testament did exaggerate events or even made up a fictitious character called Jesus, then why are there no reports from that era refuting his existence.

When Christianity grew historians started writing about Jesus. Some writers despised the Christians and had nothing to gain be perpetuating a lie.

Jesus died between 29AD and 36AD. Josephus wrote about Jesus in 93AD, 56 years after his death. Other mentions of Jesus came 80 to 100 years after his death (Pliny the Younger c.111-117 AD and Tacitus Roman Annals c.115-117 C.E.). It would have been very easy for any of those writers to find local records and individuals to verify what they wrote. Just because those sources are not around 2000 years later doesn’t mean they didn’t exist at the time.

It is hard to imagine that people from various backgrounds which included supporters and opponents, would collaborate to make false statements about stuff that happened 50 to 90 years ago and there not be on single document renouncing those reports?.

Try making up a story about a guy who lived 50 to 100 years ago, who supposedly travelled the country performing miracles, raising the dead and healing the sick. Who was killed by the local authorities who confirmed his death, supervised his burial and put a 24-hour armed guard on the grave. Despite this he was reported to have risen from the dead three days later and was seen by thousands over a six-week period. Now try presenting that as fact and posting it on Wikipedia. How long would it take before we saw all sorts of documents and first hand reports from people in the area saying it never happened and the person never existed?

Evidence that Jesus existed may be questionable but the fact that not one writer in those first couple of centuries challenged the existence of Jesus strongly suggests to me that he did exist

Bennie made an important point ... "Ethnic minorities CAN form political parties"

Well..I for one wish to nail my political colors to the mast and say NOT ON MY WATCH :).. if they have the democratic right to do so, I suspect such a move may conflict with our racism and discrimination laws.. and if it doesn't those laws should be beefed up so they do.

The very idea of an 'Ethnic' party is racist. In fact.. the idea of a 'Christian' party is also 'religiousist' I don't really like the idea of either. I'd rather see a party which has strong Christian input, but not calling itself 'Christian'. So, Fred .. sorry mate.. I cannot support the Christian Democratic Party, but I'll support you as a Christian standing for parliament.

PROVERBS..doing a good job there mate :) Blessings in Him!

YPGIRP.. I have a way of getting you off the forums :) I'll just AGREE with you.. apparently that makes you feel like a failure you said ? :) But.. much as it is tempting, your viewpoint on little old ladies under bridges is.. welll a bit on the nutter end of the spectrum mate. It added nothing to the serious issue of the incarnation of Christ and the conveying of that message to humanity.
So.. I'll refrain from agreeing with you here..
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