I will not execpt lies and false claims that I am racist as an answer to the dreadfull conditions that exist to day in most Aboridginal comunitys.
I will not bring those who have invited me into that race by invertation here to answer for me.
I will not withdraw my charge SOME in this Aboridginal comunity are racist.
And that crimes against children and emales are helped by the chase for free money.
The very best in your comunity know my charge is true.
YOUR SLURRS over look I am intent on an end to your blindness to such suffering.
It is my belif no man white black or any color should be paid if fit for work to sit at home, it is my wish that I never have to do so while I can work.
RACIST? are you blind? do you care? we must not let children suffer one more day.
Let the courts tell us about palm island and 100 other such towns.

To woorie teacher, thak you for trying.

To Belly: You have got to be kidding. If you take a look at most posts here and at other places you will see that I am no apologist for Aboriginal communities: however I find your comments offensive, as if you can see nothing good whatsoeverin Aboriginal people.

I have worked and been friends over the years with too many Aboriginals to accept your criticism of indigenous people without comment.

Yes, there are problems in many communities. There are other communities that function very well. Sometimes these communities are not very far apart geographically: compare La Perouse and Redfern in Sydney.

I also know that violence is not just an Aboriginal problem, but that it is also made more complicated by the amount of substance abuse in communities. To me the whole 'community' system, that keeps Aboriginals in self-imposed cultural ghettos where there are no jobs and little accomodation is a problem. I aknowledge however that some of these problems are due to whites, and some are due simply to the incompatibility between Aboriginal culture and 'western culture'.

Responsibility has to be accepted all around, which is what the original article here referred to.

Ok Graham,
to be clearer,

I am talking about the police union's statements.

What is it exactly that they want - do they want their members to be exempt from the law - do they want their members to be above the law?

With a trial immenent, I am happy for posts to be removed as I would hate for anyone's comments to compromise this trial.
The courts must be able to determine the guilt or innocence of person without undue influence etc.

You state that "As a trial is imminent those comments could easily breach the contempt laws. That doesn't stop race issues being discussed. As far as I can see Belly's comments that are on this thread do not address the Hurley issue."

Haven't you realised yet that this whole fiasco is race based.

I am getting the impression that it is ok for the likes of Belly to imply that Aboriginal people and in particular, the people of Palm, are somehow deserving of the treatment they have recieved to date.

But it is not ok to ask for clarity on what the police union is saying.

The 'race debate' as you call it is central to the issue being discussed as there is some considerable history going back a couple of hundred years

Woorie teacher, thanks for that, are you a first year teacher?

Do you socialise within the community after school hours?

Or do you keep a 'safe' distance?

Aka, you have to distinguish between a particular set of events which are to be tried, and a general argument about race.

As long as you don't discuss the trial, in particular whether Hurley is guilty or otherwise, then you won't have a problem (assuming compliance with forum rules).

It may or may not be possible to discuss the police union role, depending on what you say. If you say that they are trying to protect Hurley because they know that he is guilty, then you'll most likely be in contempt and I will delete the comment. If you say that it is inappropriate for a union to try to use political pressure to prevent a member being tried for a criminal matter, then you won't.

Given the way that conversations can flow online it is best not to touch specifically on the trial because it can easily lead to someone breaching the law.

My last post on the subject but please understand while I have been called a bigot and a racist here.
Told I have never met an Aboridginal my intent was to uncover this hopeless situation.
So that the children of kids I bought up can know they do not face a life like this, yes they are Aboridginal as are their mums.
I remain convinced the hunt to blame todays white Australia is used to stop movement.
And that the gread for money overcomes need for a better life.
And that without true commitment from both sides the dreadfull present problems will bring great trouble in the future to both sides .