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Law must be upheld by all sides : Comments

By Kirsten Storry, published 25/1/2007

Authorities and leaders in remote communities need a new approach to resolve conflicts.

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Firstly I would apologise for the double post, I wasn't trying to make the point twice.

I would now add that I have respect for Sir Lawrence Street's recommendation. He is of a different opinion to the Qld DPP, and under the terms of the review he had to say it as he saw it.

Now will be interesting to see how it proceeds to trial, that is, via committal hearing, or by ex officio indictment, and who brief the prosecutor, that is, will it be the Crown Solicitors Office direct, or back to a solicitor from the DPP? Selecting an impartial jury will be interesting, not impossible, but interesting, given the press discussion of this case, and the way that sides already appear to have been drawn.

I don't feel that police strike action in Queensland is justified. The Police Union should let justice take its course.

Lastly I hear that the Qld Police Union has called for police to be withdrawn from Aboriginal Communities and that policing be handed back to them in the form of customary law. This may be a good idea, after offering financial incentives, accommodation and subsidised jobs to all those who wish to leave these 'self policing' communities. (The only way that Palm Island will be 'solved' is to move people off it to places where there are jobs and accommodation.)

Would it be impertinent to suggest that this be done, subject to plebescites being conducted asking whether Aboriginals themselves want the police to be removed? Perhaps we may find these communities split on gender lines on this issue.
Posted by Hamlet, Saturday, 27 January 2007 10:30:06 PM
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Yes some police actions are criminal, against whites and Blacks.
However rainier again refuses to see the crimes Aboridginals continue to carry out against their own.
No white man can be blamed for child abuse sexual and other in numbers that over shadow the national average serveral times.
Floggings of females in this comunity are crimes that rainier would prefer we ignored.
Posted by Belly, Sunday, 28 January 2007 9:19:51 AM
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Where in any of my posts have i denied such violence is destructive Belly?

This is simply an accusation to turn the focus away from the violence that I and others know only too well from police - especially here in Queensland.

Your apparent concern for our women and children is nothing more than pretentious bunk and only thinly disguises your deep loathing and hate for all Aboriginal people.

Like many you've never met an Aboriginal person and only know us through the racist myths that are part of your family's cultural heritage. And if you have, it will no doubt be universally applied as knowledgeable justification - to every story and opinion you have about us.

And so do you accuse me of this denial because you have a burning desire to do something? No of course not. So at least be honest.

Like many who purport to have expert opinion, you would quickly shy away from an invitation to do something constructive. Like other social, cultural and luddites here on OLO your posts are illustrative of how delusion, racism and nationalism all contribute to creating the “ugly white Australian”.
Posted by Rainier, Sunday, 28 January 2007 11:44:40 AM
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Belly,
I suggest you read the many books and reports that are available that document the govt sanctioned enslavement of Australia's original peoples.

Sexual slavery of children by the settlers/colonialists/invaders is well documented.

There is considerable documentation of the rape violence and murder enacted on Aboriginal peoples by the settlers.

I suggest that a google search will provide you with some starting points but you might like to read "Broken Circles" by Anna Haebich, or the "Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Women's Task Force on Violence Report": Queensland: Department of Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Policy and Development (DATSIEP).

The latter is available online as is the HREOC Bringing them Home report, but I couldn't be bothered to look for the links for you.

The problem is people like you mouth off without bothering to know what they are talking about
Posted by Aka, Sunday, 28 January 2007 12:58:50 PM
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Cape Kid, You stated (Not all that happened that night has come to light. But I'm sure it will in due course now that charges have been laid. Hurley is, as law states, innocent til proven guilty.)
The fact is that no charges have been laid and from what the media has published in the days since the decision by the Attorney-General it would appear that Kerry Shine may have to go back to Mr Street for further advise on what procedures are available to institute the proceedings. They do have four choices but the public will never be provided with any evidence of whether any of these are lawfully constituted in accordance with the laws of the State.
Most Queenslanders who have had their lives interfered with by the members of the Qld Police Service don't believe that there is any rule of law in Qld as the results in the so called courts are always in one direction and to those who have been detrimentally effected it appears to be a problem with the judicial system as well.
Posted by Young Dan, Sunday, 28 January 2007 4:55:43 PM
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There may be some discontinuity in the posts above as I have removed some to be sure not to contravene the contempt laws. To be on the safe side you're all going to have to leave the discussion as to whether Hurley is guilty or not, or any discussion which might imply one or the other until after the trial.

Of course, you can still discuss in private, but discussion on these forums is public.
Posted by GrahamY, Sunday, 28 January 2007 6:36:47 PM
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