Words can tell mentality of the people. TrueAussie...

If you claim yourself as ‘TrueAussie’ then shame on your abusive and racist language. I wonder how OLO management allowed these kinds of crazy mind people in the forum….you don’t deserve to involve in any debate….

Anyway, I already know there are people here whose primary goal is to abuse Muslims and Islam….but this will not change the realities….

Hey Malik…. Don’t waste your time on these Idiots… they have enough skills to turn the positive debate into 3rd degree communication…. You should understand their background and qualification reading their writings…the management is also don't care about the quality and editing that is why I just gave up feeding anything...

There is no doubt that the current US oil-worshipping regime is overtly aggressive and corrupt. Then we have ignorant fools who call any voice of descent "anti-American." I don't know who is worse - the followers or the leaders.
So tell me again - Why have Bush and his toy boys left Bin Laden to himself? Now with all Bush's military might, his access to technology and intellect (cough, cough) you would think something would have been achieved by now.

Col Rouge,
I'm just interested in knowing where your judgment and understanding of the Israeli, Palestinian conflict arises from? I wouldn't be surprised if it has derived from the biased and unscrupulous media coverage on the conflict, which has pitted the majority of its viewers in favor of Israel and failed to provide any sort of balanced coverage on the conflict.. before portraying yourself as the bastion of humanity step back and stop viewing the conflict in the time frame of a few years. The Israeli nation was mostly founded under the UN pre-tense of "occupied territory", when Israel began invading the West Bank and Gaza beginning in 1967.. yes that means the land was occupied, which has been found to be illegal under UN conventions, but of course what does the UN know? the notion of terrorism was non existent by Palestinians at the time and only began to come into existence after the 12/9/87 intifada, from which since 1471 Palestinians and 168 Israelis have died... stop using the notion of co-existence because its non applicable in the sense that the existence of Israeli land is illegal

Yes terrorism is a disgusting atrocity, but careful how u define the word terrorism because doesn't the bombing of civilian infrastructure without warning killing innocent people translate into a similar description? Atrocities have been committed by both sides but every violent action undertaken by Israel has been justified by rationalisations, whereas Palestinian action vilified as Terrorism. Just step back from a second and stop dribbling your misguided and clouded interpretation of the issue without taking a holistic and historical viewpoint.

peachy,

Terrorism already occurred in the 1930s when Arabs in Palestine attached Jewish communities, some of which had existed for hundreds of years. It then had a different name but the principls were the same.

It was part of a process of Islamicism in the middle east when Christians and Jews in ancient communities predating Mohamed suffered discrimination and pressures to either convert to Islam or leave. Talk to a few Copts or Christian Lebanese.

This is not propaganda but a valid view of history. I would not blame the US for all that is wrong in Iraq, if the Iraqi state was mature enough they would have had a stable society of their own. When they stop blaming others for their problems and face their own shortcomings, as others do they will be able to work a better destiny.

The fighting and killing between Shia, Sunni and the Kurds is like the battles between the Catholics and Protestants, but that was in the middle ages.

Peachy “The Israeli nation was mostly founded under the UN pre-tense of "occupied territory", when Israel began invading the West Bank and Gaza beginning in 1967..”

The usual misguided bunkum of someone who listens to the jingo and runs along with the crowd. In short total Crap.

Israel was founded in 1948.

As for 1967 War.

1967 Arab-Israeli War, the Third Arab-Israeli War, Six Days' War, an Naksah (The Setback), or the June War, was fought between Israel and the Arab states of Egypt, Jordan, Iraq, and Syria. When Egypt expelled the United Nations Emergency Force from the Sinai Peninsula, increased its military activity near the border, and blockaded the Straits of Tiran to Israeli ships, Israel launched a pre-emptive attack on Egypt's airforce fearing an imminent invasion by Egypt. Jordan then attacked the Israeli cities of Jerusalem and Netanya. At the war's end, Israel had gained control of the Gaza Strip, the Sinai Peninsula, the West Bank, and the Golan Heights. The results of the war affect the geopolitics of the region to this day. (Wikipedia)

I would note that since that time the negotiations have seen Gaza repatriated into Palestinian hands, from which it now suffers interminable civil conflict Palestinian against Palestinian.

As for “I'm just interested in knowing where your judgment and understanding of the Israeli, Palestinian conflict arises from?”

Well you have already answered that with

“I wouldn't be surprised if it has derived from the biased and unscrupulous media coverage on the conflict,”

So why should I bother with your stupid, rhetorical question?

Re “Just step back from a second and stop dribbling your misguided and clouded interpretation of the issue without taking a holistic and historical viewpoint.”

I am stepped back, the “dribbling misguided and clouded interpretations” are all yours.

Feel free to challenge the accuracy of my post.
Attack me with your asinine innuendo and I will bite back.

Your views are unsupported by historical fact.
Your attack on me is personal.

Find a stone and crawl back under, I have spent more time you, you retarded prat, than your IQ warrants.