Oh so you can show us a speech by Bush condeming the nodemocatic royal family that rules the Saudis and calling for free multiparty elections in Saudi Arabia? The US is not behaving any different to any other super power of any time in history you care to name. the US is looking after it’s self and to think other wise is naïve to say the least. Just have a read of a few American conservative web sites some are calling for the US to put in a dictator and some are even calling for the US to allow the ethnic cleansing of the country.

Ps for a bit of a history lesson the US were still dealing with their Iraqi dictator even after the gas attack on the Kurds.
The US is not the root of all evil but to think their actions are not out of self interest is just foolish.

If easy and the colonel want anti american they should read Leunigs latest offering in the Age after Bush announced another live sheep export of lambs to the slaughter - this guys some what accurate and sanguine description of America is verging on the patriotic when compared to the latests scribbling of one of our national living treasures.

It really is high time the proponents of this nonsense in Iraq got over themselves and got out of there. People loose fights all the time and the west lost this one almost before it started - big deal

With Saddam died all the past deals he had with the U.S.A. when they were mates, "dead men tell no tales", is so true.

I hardly find so balanced and analytically documented article as of this one, yet, I am shocked to see that there are American-Salivates in this forum like easytime and col, these are the retarded people sitting home on public welfare with their bear and pizza and make fun of others killings... and so biased that blaming an excellent writer as fool- it’s a shame for online readers and management….

Even if Bush Junior claims that he is fighting against terrorism in the interest of democracy, peace and freedom, the world is witnessing except few mentally dump slavering minded, the divergent upshots in the masses. Today, the world is looking more in parts and drifting towards more divisions politically and religiously. Looking the balance-sheet and the historical facts from Bush senior to Junior one finds yet it is not fight for civilization or aiming to wipe-out terrorists instead it is a mission of those white house occupants - clusters of Bush Senior and Junior - who dream to see America as dominating the world by controlling the maximum natural resources of the globe and ruling the world by power. From Panama, Haiti to Iraq and Afghanistan billions of dollars spent on engineering the dirty games through CIA, other agencies and puppets-heads of US allies to retain the US supremacy in the world

Malik “American-Salivates in this forum like easytime and col, these are the retarded people sitting home on public welfare with their bear and pizza and make fun of others killings...”

I have no need for “Public Welfare”. I have been self employed for more than 20 years. I own one company outright, another I own half of and I have a half interest in a Mortgage Business.

I probably pay more tax than you earn gross.

As for pizza, and beer and making fun of others killing.

I occasionally drink a light beer, rarely eat pizza and I find nothing to laugh at when either pig ignorant mud humping muslims find out they have no sense of morality and start bombing Jews and Christians because they are Jews and Christians or when morons like you try to be smarter than your language skills allow.

As for “American-salivates”, are you suggesting I “drool for America”. I did live there for 3 years but I am quite happy in Australia.

Maybe you meant “To be full of desire or eagerness for something” in which case I could suggest a truck running you over so we do will no longer endure your stupid remarks does have some appeal.

Similarly I have little time for the booger snots whose spelling competencies allude to their own retardedness.

“Bear” is not to be confused with “Beer”, I know it is hard for you when both spellings pass the MSWord spelling test but if you had a proof reader to hold your hand and check your posts we would not need to suffer your linguistic incompetence.

Re"US supremacy in the world "

A few years back most of us were pretty pleased not only to be on the same side as USA but that the USA and the western democracies prevailed in the cold war.

If Czechoslovakia, Hungary or Afghanistan were examples, Russians marching into Iraq or any other middle eastern medieval cesspool would have been far less tolerant and far more murderous. Maybe they would have done the right thing and already strung you up Malik?

Hmm... Malik, from what I've seen, most of those aligned with the conservative factions of politics tend to be those who are opposed to increasing welfare, which wouldn't tally with the notion that they are on welfare themselves.

Though there's other more logical arguments you can assess.

Col: "So why “Except Israel”?
Why spend 50 years in a opposing the totalitarianism of communism only to support totalitarianism in some selected parts of the Middle East?"

America and Israel are closely aligned on a number of levels. There is the religious element, where Bush's particular brand of born again Christianity supports the notion of the Jewish state in Israel.
There is the more pragmatic argument focusing on the large proportion of the jewish vote in the US, not to mention the lobby groups.
It's quite simple: the US is a close ally of Israel but not the other ME nations, so why wouldn't Israel be an exception? Their relationship with Israel is distinctly different to all the other ME nations so of course it is an exception.

I tend to think that it is somewhat irrelevant to the US whether the ME nations are totalitarian regimes or not. They couldn't care less whether the Saudis hold elections. The real issue is whether or not they are friendly toward the US, and are willing to trade oil on their terms.
This was one of the key elements of the article - the US wants to merely have a government that will cooperate. Dictator or no dictator. The issue is finding one they can trust.

In regard to Saddam, there is plenty of documented evidence about the close relationship between him and the US. You state that Saddam received close support from Russia.
Indeed.
The point was however, that once upon a time he and the US were allied. Is this something you dispute? I'll grant it's relevance can be debated, but the fact that Saddam once cooperated with the US is much harder to deny.