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A refugee’s story : Comments

By Andrew Bartlett, published 8/1/2007

A measured and moving piece (regardless of one's views on the refugee issue), with a wholly unexpected punch-line. Best Blogs 2006.

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Are we going to have HD giving a running commentary on every blogg she 'selected'. Please no
Posted by Rainier, Monday, 8 January 2007 10:06:55 PM
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Quite so, Rainier... I thought something very similar :D

I hope davo feels a bit better now, having had a textual dump on Andrew Bartlett's very moving story. Personally, I'd much rather have someone like Ali Sarwari as a neighbour, workmate or customer than someone who expresses such cretinous opinions as davo does.
Posted by CJ Morgan, Monday, 8 January 2007 10:41:34 PM
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First of all please forgive me for my bad English. I am one of aforementioned migrants from a Muslim country.

The thing that I found rather wrong in comments by BOAZ_David and other friendly people is that they don’t notice most of Muslim migrant and refugees are fled from the Sharia and Islamic laws in their countries. They fled because they share more values with Australian culture than middle eastern laws. We have plenty of Islamic laws in middle east and from my experience a person who are willing to left everything behind and come to a country on the other side of the world and start everything from the beginning and learn a new language, is doing this because he want to get rid of those values and laws.

We immigrate to Australia, Canada and USA for the same reasons that few centuries ago for religious reasons and few decades ago for political reasons, European fled from Europe. If we wanted to live by Islamic law we never left middle east. Labelling people Muslim because they are from an Islamic country, and labelling people extremist because they are Muslim is wrong. Most of people that I know don’t believe in the things that you mentioned about Islam and you can say that will make them non-Muslims, which is exactly what Islamic governments like Taliban think about them and the exact reason they fled from places like Afghanistan and despite all the hardship came to Australia.

The problem with extremists is that a few dangerous people (I think rightfully) receive more attention than the majority of a community. So please don’t judge ten of thousands of people based on acts of few and have a little bit compassion for people who fled from governments which are exact representatives of those Islamic values that you mentioned.
Posted by Ariel, Tuesday, 9 January 2007 4:59:15 PM
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Well done Davo - an 8 sentence comment, and every single sentence contains at least one inaccuracy, sometimes more. That takes real dedication. People complain about politicians being liars, and then when we tell the truth, you complain about that.

By the way, the Sudanese refugees have been brought here by the federal government, not by me, through our offshore refugee and humanitarian program - a move I welcome and which will undoubtedly be to our country's long-term benefit, just as past refugees have been shown to be, including Ali Sarwari in the few short years before he was forced to leave. But no matter, according to Scotty, Ali was our 'natural born enemy'. According to BOAZ_D he was "the enemy, plain and simple." Go figure.
Posted by AndrewBartlett, Tuesday, 9 January 2007 5:24:35 PM
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Andrew
Your story has well crafted -you have all the choicest emotionally loaded images- designed to pull middle class Australian heart-strings:
-The innocence of a little girl forlornly looking through a Dachauesque wire fence.
-The salt-of-the-earth character of the parents .
-The insensitive bureaucracy .
-Even the tragic ending .

But what you omitted to include was, that often:
-The refugees have by-passed many countries (a number of them Islamic - some like Malaysia both ‘democratic’ & Islamic ) to get to Australia.
-They have cunningly bided their time, hiding out in a third ( Islamic) country, awaiting the right opportunity to move on to Australia.
-They have often used bribes & deceit to pave their way.
-And judging by the amount & type of baggage many carry, their little odyssey was no desperate run-for-your-lives dash .

And Andrew you left out the ending, & the best part many such stories-It all to commonly goes like this:
A refugee family having gain its residency,somewhere thereafter rediscovers their “roots’- aided & abetted by multiculturalism , and the women of the family are suddnely back at square one.

They have escaped the wire enclosures of Nauru but its simply been replaced by a black burka or abaya & virtual house arrest, for the rest of their her lives.

(The same young girl who in scene one, stood forlornly behind a wire fence, now older, in the final scene, stands forlornly behind a suburban security door-unable to venture out unaccompanied)

But by this point however Andrew & his acolytes have lost interest – its one thing to criticize fellow Anglos, but to criticize ethnic values –well, thats simply is not done under Democrat ethos
Posted by Horus, Tuesday, 9 January 2007 5:42:10 PM
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Come off it Horus. I've done well over 400 posts on my blog - this is just one of them, written a year ago, which someone else for their own reasons thought stood out as being particularly good - even though they disagree with my own views on the wider policy issues regarding asylum seekers (which surprises me a bit for a libertarian, but that's a separate matter).

I described the facts of my contact with this man and family. I am sorry that you and some other people find those facts so confronting that you need to respond with such aggresion, bile and distortion, but I don't see that as a reason why I should apologise for telling the truth.

I omitted to include all the other extra things you list, because that would be untrue, fundamentally misleading and grossly dishonest.

As I said above, people complain about politicians being liars, but when we tell the truth, you complain about that and want us to tell lies that fit your prejudices anyway. You've got shockjocks and tabloids for that, you don't need me to do it.
Posted by AndrewBartlett, Tuesday, 9 January 2007 7:21:29 PM
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