Asigning sex and playing the numbers game, manufacturing responsibility and justification, takes DV out of the realm of psychiatry, which deals with mental, emotional and behavioral disorders. DV is not an issue of sex but one of behavior exhibited by people who do not have the mental or verbal tools, education, or personal fortitude to step back and re-evaluate just what is frustrating their personal sense of legitimacy.
Name calling by either sex only continues to highlight DV as a condition in need of social and personal education. DV is a sign of personal helplessness. It's a cry for help. Intervention needs to be equal and across the board any other response is sexism and will only contribute to the continuation of DV. DV should not be criminalized but rather courts should mandate and have available Psychiatrist to do home visits with full family participation. In the fire that is DV the family integrity is consumed.

I have been watching the comments posted ever since Bronwyn Winter and her swag of academic cronies decided to use the Alleged Murder/Suicide in Townsville as a poster case for Domestic Violence and an ignorant attack on White Ribbon Day…What insults me is that I am an academic, and I’m also the sister of the “Alleged Perpetrator.” The situation that my family is now trying so bravely to deal with has been compounded by the irreverent and blatant untruths published about my brother in the media and the male witch hunt that has ensued as a result of the Feminists climbing aboard this tragedy with a political agenda to furthering their own myopic career paths with no consideration to objective critical analysis. If one was to critically analyze my brothers work ethic and commitment to the community you would find a man who dedicated his life to all facets of social justice, particularly, the protection of children, women and men who have been abused by life and the legal system, the Victims of Crime, the Murder Support Group and founded the Townsville ‘Suicide Support Group”. This man worked literally 24/7 towards the collective “good” of the community and there was no gender bias reflected in his actions toward who he helped. My brother was a victim in life of childhood sexual and physical abuse but when he needed the system it let him down because he was male..Go figure.. The rhetoric of the Feminists claiming that all men are perpetrators of violence against women is outright bull: it is sexist, discriminatory and biased. The negative and derogatory comments aimed against men further entrenches the divide between both genders finding a common ground to work with. The growing trend of verbal and physical abuse toward men is exactly what it is “Abuse” as it is fairly labeled regarding women victims. Time to “grow up” Feminists and be proactive in finding solutions rather than continue the negative and derogatory tirade against the men who are busting their gut to do right in a system that continually poos on all victims and survivors.

I'm sick of the level of misandry and sexism that is running rampant in our society now. The television advertisements are an exercise in humiliation and for one, they have no effect on me than to make me disagreeable and convince me of this institutional hate. In cases where the violence is a pattern of repetition (a lot of cases), the women chose to stay with their man rather than end it. This is about personal responsibility in most cases. If I was ever assaulted by my female partner on a consistent basis I will end it. Not doing so and suffering it shows how little self respect these women have.

ronnie, "The wreckage because of men’s violence to women is more than you’ll ever know "

Possibly but at least I'm willing to acknowledge the harm and speak against it. I doubt that any of us has a clear knowledge of the harm done by DV regardless of the gender of the perpetrator. What I won't do is shut my eyes to the harm done to a substantial portion of the victims.

The report I pointed to is just one report but there are others, there have been links posted to others on these various threads recently. It's true that one study does not overturn a long history of lies and deceit but the authors do make it clear that they are very confident in some key findings and that the main concern with the rate of harm finding is that they find it hard to believe.

If you want to make a difference to views on this topic please provide details to a study which has taken clear steps to remove bias in it's data collection and analysis (and outlines those steps) and which supports your views. One that does not start with an underlying assumption that the overwhelming majority of DV is committed by men. Possibly one where the authors started out expecting a different outcome (and that claim is reasonable based on their other work). One where the authors don't appear to have a history of promoting a particular view of DV or gender issues.

Have a look at the info about the authors of the study I pointed to

David de Vaus has a site at http://users.bigpond.net.au/david-devaus/My-Papers/my-papers-index.htm#Determinants%20of%20Australian%20Mother's%20Employment

Dorothy Scott has references all over the place and appears to be one of Australia's premier experts in child protection. See an intro at http://www.ianpotter.org.au/6-0_pubs/6-02-01-dscott.html .

Bruce Heady - http://melbourneinstitute.com/people/bheadey/

You could also look into Strauss, M. and Gelles, R., and Steinmetz, S.K and their work.

R0bert

Tommie

I am sorry to hear about your brother.

Having once been on the inside of a story I know how the media distort the real picture. I remember I felt like I was reading about another story with the same names. If it wasn't for the names I would have thought that I was reading about a totally different and separate story. A few facts matched but that was it.

Take care of yourself Tommie and be kind to yourself.

Regards
James

Ronnie Peters: This is pretty ridiculous, but at least it shows men what sort of person they are encouraging if they wear a white ribbon..

RP: "“My theory”- you mean the one you made up.

Take responsibility for what you are saying. You said the report you linked to at the DV clearinghouse was 'reasonable'. From that we can logically conclude that you think that the theory of "the cause of domestic violence is patriarchy", claimed within the report is reasonable.

Or are you backtracking and that article is unreasonable now?

RP: "Conditional acceptance - predictable"

Good. What is it that you want: UNCONDITIONAL acceptance? - predictable. Yeah because you're so trustworthy, for no apparent reason. (??)

RP: "You say I: “Demonise men and justify violence and emotional abuse…” No I don’t- but you lot do."

I fail to see any logic in that accusation:

You: Men are 100% to blame for domestic violence. (Demonising men)
You: A paper that says the primary cause of domestic violence is patriarchy, that context should be taken into account when considering claims of 50/50 abuse. (Demonising men, justifying women's abuse of men as "self defence against patriarchal oppression")

Us: Men and women have equal responsibility for domestic violence. (uhh ... is that demonising women?)
Me: Domestic violence has causes such as "relationship problems", "mutual combat", "poverty", "poor negotiation skills" and is wrong no matter the gender (I fail to see how this justifies domestic violence).

I'm demonising *feminists*, but then that would be a response to their ignoring women's violence against men and children and practically encouraging women to be abusive towards men and men to be abusive towards other men, and ignoring women victims of domestic violence caused by poverty, borderline personality disorder, alcholism and more, just to advance their political ideology, so I'd say that's a good thing.

You are quite ridiculous Peters, but keep going, men can review your bigotry and decide whether their idea of fair is your idea of fair and whether they the feminist movement you exemplify influencing public policy.