Wobbles..... is it US ? as in Australia ? I sure hope so, because to be branded thus by one of the UN flunky committees on the "Advancement of Socialism" (as opposed to their real intended function) is something I would consider an unparalleled compliment.

The day we cow tow to lobby group and misguided humanistic/socialist ideas of how Australia should be run is the day we die. (This does not mean that are no 'good' socialist or humanist ideas)

Such things as Wobbles points out, simply underline the importance of AVOIDING the UN conventions at all costs and establishing our OWN which are based on national interest and justice. One countries Justice (a selective immigration policy) is another countries 'racist discrimination') but I don't care a hoot what they think or call us.

What I DO care about is us having the common sense to avoid the many problems of other places by sound policy.

One such policy would allow for the removal of people wrongly given Australian citizenship/residency' for base political purposes, such as the Sheikh.

Braindrain...why are you putting it on Obviously ? Was it at the point where he disagreed with your view ? :) His is the youthful voice of tomorrow, a tad radical perhaps, but his passion will temper with age, but if it ever dies and simply rolls over in the fact of onslaughts from outside....then we all die with him.

I say again. The illegal immigration into the USA is seen by probably most Mexicans as RE-CLAIMING LOST TERRITORY....as shown by my conversation with a Mexican Indian protester at the G20 protest.
He says "Santa Ana betrayed Mexico, and US history is wrong/a lie"

I just don't 'get' why an indigenous Indian (who's people were massacred by the Mexican government) would regard former Spanish territories as 'Mexican' in 2006 ? Curious indeed but THAT is the problem we face from uncontrolled migration. (whacky views about how Australia should be)

Al Hilali is a good example of why anyone who wants to migrate to Australia should have a working knowledge of English and should pass an English examm before being allowed citizenship.

If Al Hilali had been speaking in English, he would have not been misunderstood.

If he had an understanding of English he would ahve been able to communicate his views with a sensitivity to the feelings of the vast majority of Australians.

Al Hilali needs to remember, he is a minority. He can expect to be tolerated by the majority but has insufficient public appeal to ever expect to be an authority in the Country, regardless of how passionate he is about his bizarre and culturally offensive beliefs.

To be honest, his citizenship should be revoked and he should be tossed back to whatever pond it was that he was spawned in.

Oh and if he does not like what I have just suggested for his fate, then remember, the same right to free speech protects me as it does him, according to the values of the country which he has chosen to align himself with.

He wasn't misunderstood. He was understood very clearly. He thinks he has a right to say one thing to Muslims and another to the rest of the community, and he's wrong.

A true leader would teach the same message to all, of self-restraint and tolerance, the message that Muslims claim is at the core of their faith: http://andrewelder.blogspot.com/2006/11/on-display-im-tired-of-silly-articles.htm

Excusing or finding a reason does not limit the ownership of one's words or actions.
Freedom is the power, rooted in reason and will, to act or not to act,
and so to perform deliberate actions on one's own responsibility. By
free will one shapes one's own life. Every act directly willed is
imputable to it's author. Every human person has the natural right to
be recognized as a free and responsible being. The right to the
exercise of freedom is an inalienable requirement of the dignity of
the human person. This right must be recognized and protected by civil
authority with in the limits of the common good and public order.

This is the difference between Democracy and Islam. And this is Islam's failure.
Until Islam understands the necessity of this principle, adopts it
as it's own and exercises it with out reservation Islamist will have
great difficulty living along side independent, free thinking peoples.

aqvarivs

Spare us the Catechisms of the Catholic Church.

Every human person, has the natural right to be recognized as a free and responsible being. All owe to each other this duty of respect.

The prophet Nathan questioned David in the same way after he committed adultery with the wife of Uriah and had him murdered.

I'm not talking about religion I guess you missed the part about "being responsible" and "common good and public order". Killing and adultery are all voluntary acts no one is compelled to either. Those who do must accept the responsibility and face the consequences of their decisions.
There is no cultural mis-speak that excuses or makes reasons for such crimes. Freedoms and the rights of the individual places the weight of ones actions on the individual. One can not turn and say my culture or my holy book made me do it. We are to have support of our ability to reason and control over our will. Failing in this, we are removed from society either for our own protection from ourselves, or to protect society from our indiscriminate actions