Steve Madden - "I am sure I missed something. sacha baron cohen (Borat) is an English Jew. Did you really think this English comedian was for real ?"

WHAT? He is not real? really Steve you are so learned! Seeing that you are so well read can you also tell me is Santa real or is he made up aswell?

Dear Bennie... (and C.J.)

I'm glad that when I see 'bile' and 'anti Islam' descriptors of peoples posts, that I as yet have not contributed to this thread.

Firstly, a bit TICK for F.H. for his honesty on the language/metaphor issue.

THE SOCIAL PROBLEM is much larger than the 'small percentage' who adhere to their ancient scriptures.
The fundamental problem of emphasizing, encouraging, pandering to, 'difference' is that it only takes a small spark to set a blaze going.

The Muslim community in Sydney especially whines "Why do you have to mention ethnicity" in crime reports ? The answer is very simple, it helps in tracking down suspects and narrows the range of possibilities. For the record, I have seen as many references to "of Caucasian/Australian" appearance when crime is reported.
The problem comes when the descriptors are used AFTER the suspects have been apprehended. There is no value or merit at all in this.
To the extent where this happens, there is a justified gripe. But the gripe I see is not proportional to the degree this happens.

This would not be even an issue if there was a greater level of assimilation and integration with mainstream Australia. But it is, and evidence such as 'we own you' on youTube by a Sydney Lebanese Muslim male, 'who has 200 cousins' etc shows the social dimension.
The more 'difference' is catered to, the more the 'moron' element of both groups, Anglo and Arab will sling off at each other and cause problems.

As Dr Mahathir (I think) once said: "Race relations are very easy to destroy, but take decades to heal"

Incorporating Lebs into the LifeSaving program is good, but 'Burkinis' in a life-saving context ? I have my doubts.


Namadi WELL SAID mate.... your wise words could only have been provided based on experience which it appears most posters have not had and it ring soooo true to me who also shares such experience.

Obviously, I was about to change my opinion of you after your fairly well reasoned contradiction to the 'Great British Melting Pot'and consider that there might just be some hope for you and that you had more intelligence than i perhaps hastily judged you to have.

I will say 'well done' on that particular post - even though i don't altogether agree on your 'position' in it I can see you argued fairly well.

Sadly, then you go and let me down here : (

Tell me - Human nature being what you think it is.. do you TRULY want it to be like that? Or would you like to be a part of making it into something better (like where people don't want to kill other people for example? Where the false reasons they use to convince themselves it is ok are shown to be false to them?

If like me you DO then please start doing something NOW - don't fall for false logic. One way is to not focus on our Differences - that is what man has always done - look for the SIMILARITIES and work to strengthening them in ALL cultures so that we are able to APPRECIATE our neighbours and not give them cause to hate us ( and vice versa).

You KNOW it makes sense. ( Please note I do NOT advocate 'appeasement' ok? - I hate intollerance of myself and Australia's 'better' values (we have some disgusting ones too) by other cultures as much as you do. Those who break Laws should expect appropriate consequences.

Yes its the same old excuse, but obviously muslim men belief white women are stupid.
Any australian schoolgirl knows what it feels like to walk past a group of admiring males as compared to a group of disrespectful mysoginists.
That is not something that is misunderstood,ie. the bitterness directed towards you. (even if it is in a foreign language)
ps. i am still waiting for the apology

What poppycock, flimshaw, nonsense, humbug, and whatever other words will do to describe this article.

Perhaps with a language like English, which has meanings in and out of context, endless variations on what connotation may be attached, countless words that mean exactly the same thing, and so on....but Arabic?

You place too much emphasis on what is essentially a desert tribal language.

Besides, this isn't the point as any language, no matter how simplistic or complicated, is capable of translation.

To argue such a case is to hope that your audience are fools who won't question the premises of your extremely weak argument.

Most aren't, simply because it's overused, Muslims always cry mistranslation when one of their redneck leaders say something we infidels weren't meant to hear.

To try to argue for Sheik Hilali does a disservice to the Islamic community.

Although it's far too late now. Muslims had their chance, and are still yet to protest to have this misoginistic bigot who has no problem with young Muslims who pack-rape infidel women (in fact, he said he would set the boys free and imprison the girls for life if he was the magistrate - well, he's only abiding by Islamic Sharia there) which tells most Australians that they support his views.

This will be remembered as a significant event in about thirty years, when this issue is finally dealt with.

As for apologists who claim mistranslation, they are even worse as they think we are so naive, and so worthless, that they think nothing of lying to our faces.

Shame.

Heres an interesting fact.

How many developed nations have been condemned by the United Nations Committee on the Elimination of Racial Discrimination as being racist?

Answer - One.

Guess which one.