Bennie
My point about the leaves was it took them years to realise their first conclusion was inaccurate. Their commonsense should have told them immediately that the finding was wrong.

Like the two professors they have paid for two years to figure out why second generation muslims are attacking London. I can tell them that in two minutes. The Muslim males first alliegiance is to their bloodline, their tribe, and we are at war with their tribe. It was always going to happen in a couple of generations anyway,war or no war if the Muslims get the numbers to demand a separate state. That is if they dont assimilate through intermarriage.
If they do assimilate it wont happen.

I may be wrong about the origins of the term ethnic cleansing but I'm not wrong about the fact that it leaves out one important part of the equation and so leads to a belief that wars are about intolerance of ethnic groups. Instead of the term ethnic cleansing
It should be called by a more accurate name. Tribal, territorial warfare. The keyword being territorial. These massacres arent so much about intolerance as they are about territorial control.

C.J. Morgan

"The notion of race when applied to humans is practically meaningless".

Not to humans it isnt. Why do black Americans still refer to themsleves as African Americans. Why do humans refer to their race first and then their country. Obviously what race they are matters very much to people.

If my genetic relationship to my children and my mother and father means nothing then I might as well treat them as aquaintances and go and live with strangers.
Genetic relationships do matter.
I am not trying to down The Muslims or any other races my point in writing these posts is to try and emphasise the importance of intergration not just at the cultural level but at the biological level. I think the Arabs are a very attractive noble people but my aim is to save this country from any kind of bloodshed and tribal war down the track by pointing out to all the ethnic groups here that if you think you can go down the path of segregated tribalism and not have it lead to some kind of struggle for territorial and resources control then you are misreading the cause of all the violence and conflicts happening in todays world.
As Dr. Phil says you cant change what you dont acknowledge.

We need to face problems that may lead to the bloody uprisings we see in other countries instead of denying they exist and try to deal with the causes before it happens here.

Rainier,
That was pretty much spot on. : ) My Dad was also the victim of Nostalgia and a long marriage (no way Mum would leave her garden here and he couldn't live happily without her) Nostalgia affects us all as do poor memories of negatives in our past making many of us think things were better then than they are now, partly because the negative of now is so much clearer and is weighted more to us.

As for the xenophobes, we have a responsibility to acknowledge what they fear, even if we do not share that fear, and to help them overcome it and to reduce the reason's for it within our society.

Education and freedom from poverty/injustice would be a start.

Think we can leave that to the likes of Howard, Vanstone, Downer, Costello, Beazely, or (in days gone by) Hawke and Keating?

BOAZ _D

It never hurts to Ask, and since you asked politely and since it has no doubt been driving benjamin and others crazy and because i am not afraid to say it...

My Family and I (formerly, before taking citizenship and 35 years of growing up) are POMMIE BAST@RDS! : )

... and i am as white or whiter than anyone else here. I am no group supremacist however, believing there to be good and bad in everyone, just not always evenly spread.

... and if you can't drain your brain of outdated rubbish you do not have a truly Open Mind.

Peace All.

Can those espousing "integration" please let me know what they mean?

Does it mean I should follow Collingwood or South Sydney?

Does it mean an annual pilgramage to Harry's Cafe De Wheels?

Should I drink VB or Chardonnay?

Just what should I integrate into?

Come on, let me know.

Sharkfin,

Racial consciousness and identification by race are often named as "problems" rather than as the historical racialised effects of social and economic inequality.

Afro Americans identify with the history of slavery as well as the genetically diverse ‘Africa’ they come from. Their identification as AA’s is not based on the monolithic race category you infer.

Within popular liberal discourse it might feel virtuous to declare that race is conceptually flawed and should be dismissed. But it continues to inform how people of colour are seen and not heard.

While we may now have formal equality with other 'Australians' the informal inequality is the reality we know all too well. Again our consciousness as Aboriginal is not the problem; it is the institutionalised means by which we came to be known as
Aborigines that is the problem. Because posters here don’t know about this history they do not understand why racism is their problem, not ours.

Braindrain, I married a "pom', and we share similar stories of being ostracised by ‘true blue Aussies’. They gave up their ‘true ethnicity’ to become Australian - poor things

It seems to me that many are posting on multi-ethnicity not mutli-culture. Australia is populated by peoples of ethnic diversity yet share a (now) similar culture. All the cultural influences have been modified to create todays Australia. And while some aspects of the original culture of individual ethnic people remain they would not in whole be recognized in their origional country as such. Todays Australian culture derives from the influences of it's ethnic diversity. Multiculturalist use "culture" as an identifier to affect social fragmentation and to promote governance by ethnic division. It pits one ethnic group against the other and ethnic relations are held hostage rather than living full lives as an integrated whole. Anyone who supports multiculturalism is either ignorant of the true nature of their thinking or are cultural marxist. Integration is incorporation as equals into society, culture and ethnicity are still respected but no longer social identifiers as they are with multiculturalism.
Multiculturalist are responsible for all the social strife in Australia and have retarded real equality for society. Thanks to our multicultural educators we have blind acceptance of the often repeated lie rather than discriminate thinking. This countries leadership has to balance the "needs" of every "culture" rather than focusing on what is proper governance for Australia for Australians.