Only some of us 'get it' Faisal.

Many of us are too full of fear of losing 'all that we have' to dare to even look at what you have said, let alone actually understand and then try to do anything to improve it.

Perhaps the more we raise awareness of it and what truly drives this 'Human Animal' more people will get it and pass it on until a critical mass is reached somewhere?

Will that stop the economic 'need' for war??

Time alone will tell.

It seems US$400,000,000,000 (Four Hundred Billion) has been spent by America alone on removing Saddam, killing a few thousand (directly over 6 weeks) and trying to install a puppet government and 'keep the peace (lolol) in Iraq in just the last 3 and a half years!

You think George and his family and friends made anything out of that? (or his political puppetmasters?)

How about any of the dead soldiers? or their families? or 250 million Americans?

or many Aussies?

How much more land and water do we have as a result - or more peace?

Have we made more friends? or more enemies from that massive expense?

Only a few of us 'get it'.

“Where did you dig up that old fossil?”

(Han Solo- Star Wars, episode 4.)

For goodness sake. Before I read this article, and the majority of posts on its associated thread, I thought I had found a magnificent forum devoted to intelligent, rigorous debate. But alas. OLO let some moonbat present an article which appears to have been created by pasting together a collection of conspiracy theories gathered from all over this supposed information resource we call the internet, and fleshed out with a smattering of meaningless metaphors.

I know I'm breaking my own rule of playing the man, not the ball here, and you can rightly criticize me for doing so. My future posts will be more measured, and I will provide evidence to back up my arguments. By all means, take me on. I will keep the discussion going for as long as you want, and I will lend as much support as I can to the few voices of reason appearing on this thread. They have already pointed out gaping flaws in Shaw’s argument. But before I can even think about engaging in a proper discussion I must register in the strongest terms my incredulity that OLO could drop its standards so low.

I am amazed that Chris Shaw could, at the beginning of the article, attempt to disavow concepts of racism, nationalism, or religion, but then echo the arguments of some of the most virulently anti-Semitic conspiracy nuts going around. It was as though Shaw had cut-and-paste, Dan Brown style, from the nearest conspiracy site he could find, and simply omitted the word "Jewish." It is anti-Semitism by stealth. It is delusions such as these that led to the holocaust. It is delusions such as these, thankfully held only by the lunatic fringe in the West, but permeating mainstream discussion throughout the Middle East, which hamstring the hope of peace between Israel and the Palestinians.

cont..

You get the impression Shaw, and many of the posters, could barely keep themselves from mentioning the Illuminati, the Merovingian Dynasty, the Anti-Christ/ UN Secretary General/ EU President, Atlantis, the Protocols of the Elders of Zion, and my personal favourite, shape shifting aliens occupying the apex of power, often 33rd degree Freemasons, who conspire to perpetuate our enslavement.

Depending on the extent of one’s insanity, one will believe in any number of these little gems. Phrases such as “free thinkers” and an “open mind” are used as excuses for believing in anything.

Seriously, if the cabal of international bankers was anywhere near as powerful as some think, why is the internet dominated by conspiracy websites? Google any great event which happened in history, and you have to filter through the dross of conspiracy sites dedicated to informing you that the Knights Templar did it. Why would they even let the internet, such a powerful tool for disseminating what you believe to be the truth, ever fall into the hands of this supposed third group of people? Perhaps, shivering in their boots, they know that magic number, the critical mass required to overthrow their regime.

Maybe the number is 666? Or is it 616?

so conspiracies never happen dozer? ever?

Ah dozer, peddling your smears on this thread too? What a busy little doser you are, claiming to have read all the comments but making not a single response to any of them. Just working to tar Shaw with the 'conspiracy theorist' & antisemitism brushes.. if only you had some evidence.

Accusing CS of antisemitism without a scrap of evidence surely contravenes the OLO Code of Conduct - i look forward to the moderators tanning your lying arse.

"I know I'm breaking my own rule of playing the man"

- no you're not.

"Atlantis"

- you forgot crop circles.

"It is anti-Semitism by stealth"

- you're showing your bias.

"I will keep the discussion going for as long as you want"

- go right ahead.

"dozer"

- WHO?