Hello Seether

I cannot see anything that you have said to counter what I have claimed.

Anyway. Here is one quote from Women's Aid; ...

"One in four women: An analysis of 10 separate domestic violence prevalence studies found consistent findings: 1 in 4 women experience domestic violence over their lifetimes and between 6-10% of women suffer domestic violence in a given year (Council of Europe, 2002)."

If 75% of women never experience domestic violence then the ANNUAL domestic violence rate - IF TRUE - suggests that it is the SAME women who are complaining about domestic violence; year in year out.

And I think that this is a fact worth knowing rather than trying to hide.

Other evidence also suggests that MANY of these particular women 'seek out violent partners' and/or keep provoking men into aggressing against them.

IOW **These** women are the common denominators. That should tell you something.

RW, "And this implies that, being the common denominator - year after year after year after year - these women are actually either provoking whatever it is that they claim is actually happening to them. Or they are inveterate liars."

I don't agree with what appears to be the assumption that the victims of DV provoke it. Some may, others choose to stay in abusive relationships for a variety of reasons, others have not learned the lesson about what kind of partner to seek out. Some will enjoy the conflict of a fiery relationship, others are there for different reasons.

The DV study I linked to earlier is worth a read for an Australian look at this issue.

R0bert

This was a poorly written and argued piece - and once it quoted Bolters well... it was not credible to start with.

The only vaguely interesting thing was the position adopted on the left wing take over - here mainly in reference ot feminists .. it may be true but just maybe that is the correct order of things that is enabling past wrwong to be righted!

Keith Windshuttle is of a similar view - he describes the leftist take over thus in his Earl Page Memorial lecture of 2005

"This social group is a minority but a sizeable one. Its critics sometimes call it the inner-city Left, the new class, or the cultural elite. It dominates our film and theatre industry, our arts and literature, public broadcasting, the Fairfax press and the humanities and social science departments of our 38 universities. Its leading lights were educated and radicalised by the upheavals within universities in the 1960s and 1970s"

Well some one had to dominate - but it does imply that the rest of the countrie thinkers were asleep or trotted off to reprograming camps in the bush -

it is a tired old line adn uncharacteristically defeatist from the proponents of the right - it also flies in the face of the over whelmingly - conservative nature of Austrlaian politics over the last thirty years - as well as an often bi partisan appraoch on many social issues = do not get too carried away by the current domination og states by the ALP either

Please excuse this humble mind. From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Marxist feminism is a sub-type of feminist theory which focuses on the dismantling of capitalism as a way to liberate women. Marxist feminism states that capitalism, which gives rise to economic inequality, dependence, political confusion and ultimately unhealthy social relations between men and women, is the root of women's oppression.

According to Marxist theory, in capitalist societies the individual is shaped by class relations; that is, people's capacities, needs and interests are seen to be determined by the mode of production that characterises the society they inhabit. Marxist feminists see gender inequality as determined ultimately by the capitalist mode of production. Gender oppression is class oppression and women's subordination is seen as a form of class oppression which is maintained (like racism) because it serves the interests of capital and the ruling class. Marxist feminists have extended traditional Marxist analysis by looking at domestic labour as well as wage work in order to support their position.

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Radical feminism is a branch of feminism that views women's oppression (or patriarchy) as the basic system of power upon which human relationships in society are arranged. It seeks to challenge this arrangement by rejecting standard gender roles and male oppression. The term Militant feminism is a pejorative term which is often associated, usually by detractors, with radical feminism. Often, radical feminism is seen by people other than adherents as a form of identity politics.

The term radical in radical feminism (from Latin rādīx, rādīc-, root) is used as an adjective meaning of or pertaining to the root or going to the root. Radical feminists locate the root cause of women's oppression in patriarchal gender relations, as opposed to legal systems (liberal feminism) or class conflict (socialist feminism and Marxist feminism). But in politics radical means fundamentalist or extremist.

Indeed. A SUBCATEGORY.

Just because there are some nutbags out there dosn't mean every person who believes in the inherent equal value of men and women is out to get you.