Bondi Pete,

My objection (and I'll put it again) is the notion that WOMEN were being damaged by the university system and its so-called political correctness, while MEN who graduated from the same courses weren't having their judgement/influence questioned.

I would further argue that the notion that women bring to their positions of power a disproportionate influence by virtue of their gender or activism exists, at best, as a parallel argument to the notion that many blokes appointed to boards, statutory bodies, diplomatic posts, government advertising contracts and the like are beholden to the interests of business, political background or other inherent bias.

I think one of the key issues that this article skims across is the ongoing issue that the presence of women in some areas is still such a novelty that they cannot seek to advance their career or position without the cry of "tokenism!!" or "pandering to the feminist elite!!" being raised. This is pretty disappointing. If a woman were passed over in favour of a man, I doubt very much if the country's editorial pages would be spent dissecting whether his gender unfairly advantaged him.

"Having watched my mother beening beaten as a child I can see no problem with tought laws." Posted by Kenny, Tuesday, 17 October 2006 9:22:52 AM

Kenny, how did you watch your mother being beaten as a child? Just wondering, I'm not sure what you mean?

Is there no end to the fear some men have of women?
As many posters have pointed out, this is the silliest article I've read on OLO for some time. I am a feminist, a humanist, a small 'l" liberal, and a passionate believer and participant in the free enterprise system. I also believe in the protection of all humans from violence. Where would this silly author therefore place me?

Domestic Violence - It's Always The Same Women

We are told by the UK Home Office that 25% of women experience domestic violence at some time in their lives, which means that 75% of women NEVER experience it. Further, we are told that, every year, 10% of ALL women experience domestic violence.

Now, this 10% must come exclusively from the 25% of women who do experience domestic violence at some time in their lives.

It follows, therefore, that from this sub-group of 25% of women, a whopping 40% of them are experiencing domestic violence EVERY YEAR!

In other words, it is the same women - EVERY YEAR - who are claiming to be the victims of domestic violence.

Let me simplify for non-mathematicians.

Imagine that there are 100 women in the entire population. According to the Home Office, 75 of them never experience domestic violence throughout their entire lives. So, let's forget about them.

25 of them do experience some domestic violence in their lives.

But, according to the Home Office again, 10 women out of the original 100 women will experience domestic violence.

EVERY YEAR!

But these 10 women must come out of the 25 women who have experienced domestic violence at some stage in their lives.

None of these allegedly-violated women can be from the group of 75 women who have never experienced domestic violence.

And so it must be the case that it is the SAME women allegedly experiencing domestic violence - year after year after year after year.

There is no other way of interpreting the figures.

And this implies that, being the common denominator - year after year after year after year - these women are actually either provoking whatever it is that they claim is actually happening to them. Or they are inveterate liars.

Or, most probably, both!

And, of course, this fits in exactly with what Erin Pizzey said! "Most of the women arriving at the refuge centres were MORE violent, even toward their children, than were the men they were supposedly escaping from."

Q. What political system has killed more people than any other?
A. Marxism.

Q. How many people have Marxist killed?
A. Estimates vary, but it is generally believed to be over 50 million.

Q. Where is Marxism most likely found in Australia.
A. Universities.

Q. Where in Universities is Marxism most likely to be found?
A. It is studied in history and political science of course, but it is very common to find feminists in gender departments studying Marxist theory.

Q. Why do feminists so often study Marxist theory?
A. Marxism and feminism have many similarities, and many feminists still think that Marxism is the best social system for societies, even though all Marxist systems have failed and also brought about an enormous amount of death, destruction and poverty.

Q. Do Universities reward Marxist and feminists?
A. Yes, the University of Sydney gave an honorary doctorate to a self-declared Marxist and feminist last year.

Q. What has that Marxist and feminist said?
A. Statements such as men are “surplus to requirements”.

Q. Is that discriminatory?
A. It would probably be considered discriminatory if it was said about people belonging to a race or religion, but because it was said about the male gender then most Universities in Australia would not regard it as being discriminatory.

Q. Is there much male discrimination in Australian Universities?
A. It is very much frowned upon to make any type of positive comment about the male gender in Australian Universities, and close to obligatory to make negative comments about males in Universities in this country.

Q. Don’t gender departments or equity departments in Universities try to stop male discrimination?
A. Most universities have some type of gender department or equity department, but they are invariably made up of females only, or they may have 1 or 2 token gesture males in those departments, so eventually it becomes impossible for those departments to outlaw male discrimination when they carry out so much male discrimination themselves

RW,

While I'm not sure that your post has anything at all to do with all of these evil marxist feminists wandering the streets, I was intrigued by your argument.

I have gone to the UK Home Office site to read the report you allege proves that women MUST BE lying about domestic violence and assault.

For those interested it is here http://www.homeoffice.gov.uk/rds/pdfs04/hors276.pdf

Can I observe about this report that:

1. It sought statistics on both men and women as victims of a range of interpersonal violence issues - the experiences of both genders are included in the report

2. It notes that for those women experiencing some form of domestic violence, the AVERAGE number of incidents in the year it surveyed was 20 - so yes, those women ARE experiencing repeated incidents of violence.

3. It notes that 13 per cent of the women surveyed and 9 per cent of men surveyed had experienced interpersonal violence. Are the nine per cent of blokes lying too? Or should we forget the gender blame game and try to address the real issue of interpersonal violence?

4. The report estimates that there were 12.9 million incidents of interpersonal violence against women and 2.5 million against men in the UK in the year the survey was conducted.

Is it really okay to muddle around with statistics and ignore the fact that the report contends that 15,400,000 incidents of violence were perpetrated within interpersonal relationships in just one year?

No one denies that domestic violence is an issue for both genders. People who seek to characterise those reporting incidents of domestic violence as "liars" do nothing to ensure that interpersonal violence is addressed or reduced.