Sunisle: Your memory suffers from an inability to recall what you yourself said a couple of preceding posts ago. You apparently forgot that you blathered on about the terrible crimes of European colonialism.

But as I point out, your simplistic portrayal of things fails to capture the full texture of historial events. British colonialism accomplished some very positive things as well. The story is not entirely white or black as you contend.

But then, I suppose I shouldn't really be surprised. Your inability to comprehend a more sophisticated world view is has been readily apparent for some time.

OK, T.L., you can have the last word after this post; you resorted to the old tactic of personal insult on your last one...must be closing time...at least it is for me.

And, I said that Israel was created by European colonisers- who haven;t done anything remotely beneficial to the indigenous people; my point was quite clear...THEY ARE STILL AT IT, AFTER ALMOST 60 YEARS!

I cannot be bothered to continue; you know what is happening to the millions of men, women and children under a brutal occupation...your fellow human beings. It is apparent that yuo have no wish to either talk about these human beings, who are the same as all human beings the world over; nor do you wish to discuss Israel's crimes toward them.

So, you have to live with your conscience,and it's goodnight from me.

sunisle

I cannot leave your last post unanswered. It is too simplistic to claim that Israel was created by European colonisers. Nearly half the Jewish population of Israel is not from Europe but from other Arab countries. At some one period this number was more than half. Some Jewish Israelis have been there for hundreds perhaps thousands of years.

This statistic is hated by the anti-Israel lobby.

It is also wrong to classify the Palestinians as more indigenous than the Jews. Besides which the Israelis gave the Palestinians the benefit of a democratis vote, which none of them had before, and created a Palestinian state in the occupied territories, which they never had before. The Gaza Strip and West bank wouild never have been occupied if the locals had not attacked Israel with the professed intent of destroying it.

THis is my last post to you Logic; unlike T.L., you truly do not know what is happening, but chose to have a whole race of people to hate rather than learn about the issue.

The statement you made about "the Jews" being as indigenous as "the Palestinians" just about says it all. THERE WERE ALL RELIGIONS LIVING TOGETHER IN PALESTINE BEFORE 1948. THAT WAS NOT AN ISSUE. THE EUROPEANS MADE IT AN ISSUE.

"The Jews" are not indigenous to Palestine; the Jewish people living there in 1948 are. The thugs from the Bronx who have come, along with other races who happen to be Jewish religion from around the world, have as much affinity to that land as my dog does. She perhaps has more so, as she is friendly and does not discriminate against people.

I realise that you will never understand and that it is easier to have a race of people to hate ,rather than learn. But, hey, racists are like that. You might just put your money where your mouth is and go see for yourself- but I doubt it.

And it's goodnight from him!

Eventually, sunisle, your dog understands the Israeli-Arabic issues more than you because it has got guts keeping quiet.

Australia is a political entity established by land-grabbing, where every nation is really equal from viewpoint of belonging to this land, where indigenous population was being simply exterminated to please mentors from London of the England of the time North American colonies walked away. Not originated from Britain are under-caste inhabitants regardless of generations they have been to Australia. Not speaking of more recent arrivals.

Do you, sunisle, intend to explain that the Arabs in Israel live much worse than non-Anglo-Saxons in Australia?

I try to believe.

sunisle

"The thugs from the Bronx who have come, along with other races who happen to be Jewish religion from around the world, have as much affinity to that land as my dog does. She perhaps has more so, as she is friendly and does not discriminate against people."

Who is predjudiced? Who is the racist?