Can identify with what you're saying Nat04, I was 21 when I met my partner and he had 2 kids already, and I was working fulltime, always have but we've since had 2 kids. We deserve the choice to stay at home with our kids, but that will not be the case for me much longer. His ex has spent 15 years on government pensions, and her partner owns his own home while we still rent. After years of a private aggreement, she has used CS as a means to brainwash her children into thinking their father does not love them and that he is generally a 'bad person'. Thankfully the eldest is a fair-minded girl and can see past it. She has successfully ruined our attempts for them to be part of their new brothers' lives. As a mother, I cannot believe the lengths some other mothers go to to inflict such pain on their own children in a misguided attempt to make them hate their father as much as they themselves do.

This case below comes to mind when I think of the CSA and the victims of this dispicable agency. The CSA breaks the law every day when they apply unjust and inequitable decisions. They have ample legislation that they can apply to act 'fairly ' but the CSA chooses to abuse their statutory powers by applying their own brand of injustice. Previous court orders are often overidden, ignored, & abused. So why bother to even get your court orders in the 1st place? They are a law unto themselves and accountable to no one.

"If the courts of common law do not uphold the rights of the
individuals by granting effective remedies, they invite anarchy, for
nothing breeds social disorder as quickly as the sense of injustice
which is apt to be generated by the unlawful invasion of a person’s
rights, particular when the invader is a government official" Gaudron,
Toohey JJ Plenty v Dillon & Ors HCA 91 1/1/01

Cheryl King ( Chezzie ) 35 Moselle Street Box Hill- Victoria- phone 0416 031145

You’re naïve Kalin. There are many friendly split ups that get increasingly contentious until they're all out war—that’s common. It would be rare to be able to prove conclusively whether there was fraud when the two partners disagreed. My other points are pertinent. If you change a law it causes consequences no-one considered.

Do notice the deafening silence on my points about fathers who defraud.

Chezzie's refusal to answer my questions speaks volumes too. What is it--fifth amendment? Why are you so afraid to answer? Scared what people will think of you if they know the truth?

No, chez my three children were all biologically my ex’s. But I can’t understand how anyone can hold a child in their arms, caring for them for years and then treat them like that. I don’t understand the virulent poison poured out on the children and I don’t understand your scot-free attitude to Derek Rowe.

I wanted to adopt a child who would otherwise have a rotten life. It seemed crazy to give birth to another child in this world when others went without. But my ex wanted his own DNA. I have a cousin who adopted a little chinese girl. In China due to the one child policy they drown little girls—their orphanages overflow with them.

After my marriage breakdown I did look for another relationship—that’s when I discovered how important DNA is to most men--if they do marry someone with children they often maltreat them. This DNA trip impacts on many levels. Children are not treated as individual human beings but carriers of their parents’ immortality through genes. There’s a documentary on monkeys where the new leader of the 'harem' of female monkeys kills all babies to maximise the survival of his DNA. This DNA attitude you encourage is a cruel and selfish impulse.

Without a doubt the true parent of a child is the one who cares and nurtures them whether they are theirs genetically or not.

Who looks after your children chez? Would you like them to take you to court after dedicating your life to them?

Scrap, as a women you deserve more condemnation. Go have a look at all the pro-male/NCP recommendations I make. I said I was against the ‘capacity to earn’ rule and I offered my ex 50/50. Did you or Chezzie have 50/50 with your exes? You pretend men are the only victims. There’s no-one saying sometimes woman get a raw deal and the answer to the children getting a raw deal is they can sue the mother.
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I’ve also seen firsthand the destruction men wreck on their partners. I know women beaten to a pulp in front of their children and then peed on. I’ve seen the broken backs, necks, ribs, fractured skulls—women and children. I have been with them when their children are hospitalised after access visits. I’ve seen them stay in a relationship so they don’t have to leave their children alone with him for access. I’ve been to their funerals when they did try to leave. I know the women who have lost custody of their children being accused of PAS while their children are screaming “not daddy—he hurts me”.

I know the men who left their wives with huge debts while he hides his money--so many men who work full-time and pay no child support. I work in IT surrounded by men--they all joke about it. I have met the men who tell me they left because they hated the burden of children. I know the women whose men walk out and refuse to have anything to do with the children while the women beg them to take access. And the women who are terrified because they know on access visits their children are with a heroin addict or someone seriously mentally ill. It’s not only men who get hurt.

Most men pay nothing to $5pw for their children. These are not all unemployed. These include men with businesses and men with so many schemes to keep their money.

My suggestions were to maximise the chances of a marriage lasting and a mutual agreement for separation drawn up before marriage. That’s fairer than any of you.

Aziliz, you say,
There’s a documentary on monkeys where the new leader of the 'harem' of female monkeys kills all babies to maximise the survival of his DNA. This DNA attitude you encourage is a cruel and selfish impulse. What about horses, the new Stallion will kill all the offspring of the mares under his ‘harem,’ and I am sure with other animals too.

Take a look at religious wars & differences of opinions, in present news. Young lasses getting about with their mid-riff exposed as well as cheeks of their lower bottoms! Does this not incite lust in the eye of the hormone bursting youths. If you want to take the discussion into the nature of man & beast, start a new topic, please.

AZILIZ is having trouble grabbling with the truth here. She must work for Clayton Utz( mothers legal tream )or maybe the CSA
Fraud is fraud and when you gain through deception, you have broken the law. Aziliz you are typical of the minority who will always hide behind the 'best interests of the children' So being a mother gives you the right to not pay any penalty- or so it seems. You would also be a great assett to the CSA. They facilitate fraud every day. They had their own officer/witness committ perjury in court just recently. I was there and witnessed it first hand. Its an appalling and dispicable organisation and the sooner they close their doors the better. What will you tell these kids when they are adults? When they ask why they were deceived about their true identity? I hope you are around later when these kids 'sue' the authorities for not ensuring that their basic human rights were upheld. Women like you make me PUKE. You can never even start to comprehend what it feels like to be involved in the crime of 'paternity fraud'. You are brave behind your log in name and hidden identity.
Cheryl King ( Chezzie )35 Moselle Street Box Hill 3129 Phone 0416 031145