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Meat treatment sullies Diggers in lraq : Comments

By Melinda Tankard Reist, published 25/9/2006

Don’t gloss over the offence committed by these soldiers against women.

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You have to be Kidding,

How dare you use Australian Soliders who where not raping or piilaging women at all to detract from what they are going through and push the chip on your shoulder.

It is a disgrace that these men put their lives on the line FOR YOU TO HAVE THE FREEDOM TO WHINGE and yet you notice perfectly legal posters of females on the walls and this was worth writing about and conemning them for.

These men often have no female companionship during their time away and admiring women is as close as many get.

As you dont understand that males have differing hormones and genetics to you all you think about is this is another angle for you to harp on about your cause.

Your cause of protecting women is very valid, but you do it no favours by the manner in which you attack and lay blame on innocent people.

Take a good hard look at yourself, you may hinder your cause by your innapropriate behavior and attitiudes. This is your personal attitude to pornography here, and as a person who obviously does not appreciate it nor know much about it, how do you know the impact it has on those who do? Your asumptions and cheap shots have taken the decency out of your message.

You should be diligent enough to put your cause before your attitudes and personal grevances.
Posted by Realist, Monday, 25 September 2006 12:48:19 PM
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The reference as to what Moaslems might think about our soldiers
attitude to women does not take into account that moslem men are so
uncontrolled that they cannot even be allowed to see the hair of a
woman.

Australian men can see women on the beach in the scantiest of cossies
yet do not rush over and rape them.
Can the same be said for moslem men ?
Else why do they insist that their women drape themselves in mobile tents.
It must simply be that they do not trust other men.

A little bit of proportionality here please.
Posted by Bazz, Monday, 25 September 2006 12:56:34 PM
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I hope we do not send boys to war.
Yes boys will be boys, but I expect men to act as men, not children.
Posted by Flo, Monday, 25 September 2006 1:03:36 PM
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Melinda, as an oldie who spent nearly five years in the forces during WW2, partly agree with you about the way troops talk about women just to be used sexually, but not much about dinkum love which you would be surprised troops do talk about often with tears in their eyes.

But what us old veterans are more disgusted about, is the way Mr Howard virtually commended the way that low-rankers are now allowed to mess about with small-scale weaponry while off duty.

We did have one occasion where a low-ranker shot himself while on guard with his issue long-barrelled 303, but the point is that us gunners knew without asking the question that it was British military tradition that low-rankers were not issued with small weaponry, revolvers and such, because low-rankers especially when a bit young were too likely to play around with small weaponry. Quick on the draw, etc.

Hoping WW2 veterans will agree with us on this one, even if it helps stop our PM making a real fool of himself.
Posted by bushbred, Monday, 25 September 2006 1:09:08 PM
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Like all radical feminists, Melissa is blind to all of the degradation, suffering and death that is so glaringly apparent in the Islamic world.

None so silent as radical feminists when confronted by violations of women's rights in Muslim countries it would seem.

Melissa, if you really want to do some good, what about the genital mutilation of girls that is rife in some countries and through migration has been imported to western democracies? Greer and radical feminists support genital mutilation because it is 'women's choice' and is performed by them.

What about child marriage where adolescent girls are taken by old men as happens in Aboriginal communities? Or the similar sexual 'training' of young boys (in the same culture) by old women pedarists? The feminist response is 'never you mind' because it is cultural and therefore quite OK. So much for children's rights. So much for the street cred of the feminist elite.

I agree with Narcissist, this article by Melissa is a real joke. Feminists spend far too much time egging one another on and are completely out of touch with reality.
Posted by Cornflower, Monday, 25 September 2006 1:21:45 PM
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I doubt that I would agree with the Author on much, but on the matter of 'MEAT' I do agree..and I raise it 3 fold.

It is a sad and tragic commentary on our 'values' when men seek comfort in the battle field from porographic degrading images of women.

We should look more closely at some of the love stories which emerged from world war 2.... the letters home... the true and deep affection.

Pornography is NEVER the answer to lack of female company. NEVER.

All it does is re-inforce the "I need SEX" rather than "I would love to have someone to love right now" value.

I absolutely believe that the teaching of Christ, and the Apostles is a value we could do well to inculcate into our young men and women.

"Husbands, love your wives as Christ loved the Church and gave himself up for her"

Contrast this with

'Ooiyyy mate.. I've got a massive sperm build up.. I desperately need to get laid"

On this score..if current Australian values include regarding females as "an opportunity to get laid" then I TOTALLY AND ABSOLUTELY REJECT that.

I am educated enough though, to realize that such 'values' emerge from
a) Rejection of God
b) Misuse and abuse of the freedom we have (even in a more Christian values environment)

The Bible teaches "You are free indeed, but don't use your freedom as an opportunity for the flesh"

But alienation produces increasing confidence in waywardness, in seeking the quick thrill, in dehumanizing our fellow men and women into 'opportunities' for sick and carnal pleasure.

Eventually, the voice of our fading conscience is but a whisper... until nothing is heard at all.

It is then that the words "The way is easy and the road is wide which leads to destruction" are fulfilled in us.

May God help us.
Posted by BOAZ_David, Monday, 25 September 2006 1:30:25 PM
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