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The relation between air pollution and reduced rainfall has been determined by careful observation. To say it is irrelevant you would need another explanation for clouds associated with pollution plumes having their rainfall potential shut down. Many scientists find Dr Rosenfeld’s hypothesis convincing. http://www.insidebayarea.com/dailyreview/localnews/ci_4342234 But if you think your hypothesis a better one then advance it.

Have you ever wondered why the link between air pollution and reduced rainfall is largely ignored by government? If they did pursue this link then ultimately they would be forced to correlate declining rainfall with an increasing population. It is much easier to use climate change as an excuse for severe water restrictions and cosy deals for new dams, water pipelines, desalination plants etc. At the same time you can have unrestricted low lying development by announcing that there is no point in restricting things until the science is certain. This is a great way of escaping any liability for property destruction if sea level does rise more quickly.

As a technological fix for water supply, carbon nanotube membranes hold enormous promise, both as a potential desalination membrane requiring one quarter the energy of conventional reverse osmosis, and perhaps as a particle filter to reduce air pollution.

Isky “Just wanted to point out that “They do not know what they do not know” applies equally to those on all sides.”

Of course it does

”So does the expression, "Having enough knowledge to be dangerous." Thinking that we have all answers and are above answering to the forces of nature is folly.”

No argument here

However, what is certain is – our accumulated knowledge will expand and with so much attention being paid to it, solutions or practical resolutions (by that I mean things which work instead of the luddite edicts of Kyoto and the doomsayers) will come to pass, which will eliminate the hysteria of the small minded control freaks who demand we switch off every electrical appliance and revert to pushbikes.

One of the great things with human development is, almost all the major developments have been made to improve the lot of individuals (one of the wonders which comes from developing consumer societies – versus medieval subsistence societies). Trying to turn back the clock to some mythical age when what is supposed to be “climate change” could or even should be averted is impossible not only from a scientific perspective but also from a social perspective.

Gore got into politics because he was motivated by power, his movie is, as I suggested, merely a stage show which threatens people with the consequence of not giving him power now.

Yup. Just like Elvis, UFO's, and many more of those unexplainable events...9/11, global warming - the list goes on...

Depont du Nemours patents on "R" series refrigerants (classed as CFC's) were due to expire in the 1990's, so in the 1970's we just conveniently cobble up an " oops thar's a hole in the Ozone layer" to get a few research dollars. Then siphoned off into to other 'worthy' projects.

Now the newer HCFC's are hailed as the panacea substances to the GWP (Global Warming Potential) facing us into the new millenia, we see China, former USSR, and other countries are still producing several thousands of tonnes per day of the so called banned Ozone Depleting substances to keep older buildings and associated HVAC systems in major cities running for a bit longer. Retrofitting... what a joke!

Not being published is the danger posed by types of oils used in refrigerating systems using HCFC's, such as Poly Alkylene Glycols/ Esters etc. Not nearly as nasty as those dioxins we used in capacitors a couple of decades back, but still tricky to dispose of at your local council tip. Ok to flush it down the dunny? Don't wash your hands in it though. The policing of relevant legislation is also a farce.

Another instance of mega corporations getting at us by the 'short and curlies'? Never let the thought cross your minds.

Col Rouge. G'day.

To add to your last, even if each and every one of us bought a treadly tomorrow and went off to our respective workplace/shopping forays etc, the amount of methane generated from all those huffing & puffing humans would initially outweigh the advantages.

It might however sort out the macho 'mud crab' mentality displayed by both genders on our roadways today. For the first few weeks all those who expired from heart attacks would not be sadly missed.

Damn it - forgot the milk, I'll just jump back into my 4.8 litre Land Crusher and drive the 2 kays to the air conditioned mall.

Albie,

They tell me that in Darwin there is one bureaucrat for every eleven citizens. If this is true, and they did what you suggest in their Toorak Tractors, then we would be witnessing the worlds second jihad on the roads. The first would be Iraq of course, from whence we would get the copy-cat sundrome.

Amen.

NSW coastal wastewater pollution still marginally improved from 25th Sept.

This should be enough change in the NSW coastal thermodynamics to induce much needed inland rainfalls.

If the cheezy wastewater plumes off Bega and Eden on the NSW Sth coast are retracted a bit it might just clinch the deal and get rid of bushfire threats for 2006/2007.

I also have some concerns about pencil-plume high-SHA-anomalies out of Sydney and Wollongong.

http://www.aoml.noaa.gov/phod/trinanes/tmp/sha1159592427.gif

Meanwhile, in the US More Money is Sought for Storm Research:

The report, from the National Science Board, recommends a streamlined, multiagency effort to improve hurricane science and engineering research, along with about $300 million a year in additional financing. Hurricane-related losses in the United States totaled $168 billion in the last two hurricane seasons, and 1,450 storm-related deaths were reported, according to the report.

Comment:

The SHA maps I have presented plus the zero US landfall hurricane status for this year suggests there will not be any more US hurricanes ever. They already know how to ward off hurricanes in the US after the successful turnaround in events this season. Which is probably why they don't say 'Hurricane Research' in the article header.

They should send the money here to Australia and we will give America an unmanned MPAL SPACE PROGRAM they can count on, with one ton payload to LEO every 5 minutes, non-stop, out of Astrolab bay and Mt Wilhelm (6 deg Lat) in New Guinea!

Australia can develop a lot of much needed high-tech jobs and skill sets with that kind of funding.

MPAL:Maglev, Packet switched, scramjet Assist, incremental Launch.