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Think morally - rejecting the coercive adoption of Aussie values : Comments

By Mirko Bagaric, published 21/9/2006

Aussie values - mateship, hard work and respect for women. And all the tourists want to do is sit on the beach!

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Jolanda - you're taking the values too strictly. Mirko pointed out that they're pretty vague.

If you give it enough latitude, the situation you describe would clearly be classed as an inconvenience, therefore it would fit, and the police officer or whatever would not be obliged to do it.
The statement itself is simply asking people to help out if it won't cause them problems, and your example highlights problems.

And C J Morgan - yes, there's some vitriol here, but perhaps it's worthwhile listening to gain a deeper understanding of the views of the fringe - from either end of the spectrum.
Posted by TurnRightThenLeft, Friday, 22 September 2006 9:23:38 AM
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do the aussies already in australia have to pledge to 'mateship and hard work'? i hope so, as when i lived there, many times neither of these 'values' eminated from australians mouths - the phrase 'you f...ng kiwis take all our jobs' sums it up pretty well i think.
Posted by mintie2006, Friday, 22 September 2006 1:18:50 PM
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Of all the contributers to this article, Mirco included, T800 is closest to the mark.

There is no reluctance to people from different cultures coming to live in Australia. We simply want them to become one of us,Australians with traditional Australian values, fair go, mateship, rule of law, non sectarian government, equality of the sexes, and so on. Sure, over time some of the values from their original culture will blend into the overall collection of things that we find to be Australian. But to attempt to establish communities that are miniture collectives of another country's culture is just not on. That is what upsets many Australians about multiculturalism.

Become an Australian, and Australian first, and we will welcome you and the strengths you bring with you. That's all we want. And if that is a coercive sentiment, so be it.
Posted by Sniggid, Friday, 22 September 2006 2:56:00 PM
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Isn't a bit rich insisting that mossies and tourists have aussie values when we allow our dog-whistling politicians to accept bribes from religious groups that don't vote, don't pay taxes, don't believe in equality for women. These religious groups also expect to have state aid for their schools.
Posted by billie, Friday, 22 September 2006 2:59:13 PM
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billie,
Are you claiming the Exclusive Brethren are receiving State Aid for schools. It would appear so, otherwise if you are speaking of Muslims who have their own schools they certainly vote. Most children of Exclusive Brethren attend State schools. I suggest you research more before you make unfounded sweeping statements.
Posted by Philo, Saturday, 23 September 2006 12:47:47 PM
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Philo, I may be wrong, but I believe there's at least 5 Brethren schools in Aus, all receive federal funding and are closed to outsiders. Their places of worship also receive federal funds and tax exemptions, even though they are in breach of the requirements which state, only public places of worship receive tax exemptions and funding. However they refuse access to the public, for worship or education. Isn't that fraudulent.

I've dwelt with these people and find them to be disgusting in their approach and suppression of susceptible superstitious people. Like all regional factions, they are completely the opposite to what they espouse is their aims, followings and applications.

The brethren lobbied heavily to have disclosure of donations to political parties raised to $10000, to enable them and other masters of the lib/lab coalition, to conceal where their money comes from so they are free to push their suppressive religious agenda's.

Philo, as time goes on the true veracity of your beloved Yahweh ( god of war) and how it expresses through those it has enslaved, is being fully revealed. This is why so many Australians wish to be rid of the continuing destruction, lies and complete disregard for anything, but monotheisms violent attempts to be right. We don't want religious values in our country, the results historically and currently world wide is the only example we need to show it's veracity.
Posted by The alchemist, Saturday, 23 September 2006 2:17:08 PM
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