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Waging a cultural revolutionary war : Comments

By Irfan Yusuf, published 11/9/2006

Terrorism is hardly a mono-cultural affair, either in Australia or elsewhere.

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Banjo...please check out this link mate

http://www.citizenship.gov.au/news/DIMA_Citizenship_Discussion_Paper.pdf

I can't speak for what currently is the case... but this is the new approach.

What I want to know is whether Muslims can legally bring polygamous wives here... (which leads to multiple family re-union opportunities)
All I know is that centrelink will not recognize any more than one wife.

Just rang Dimia... here is what they said:

1/ A man with multiple wives can only bring one.
2/ He may bring ALL the children of ALL of his wives, but not the mothers. (except the one he chooses to be his 'legal' wife here)
3/ Family re-union as 'dependants' does not apply.

Irfan...for goodness sake mate... your color does not mean squat to us in terms of your acceptability. From a Christian point of view, 'there is no longer Greek nor Jew, Slave nor free, '....ethnicity does not matter.
Posted by BOAZ_David, Monday, 18 September 2006 12:38:59 PM
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but....

having said all that. Here is the story from SMH 2002 regaring our friend Mr Trad.

[Trad arrived in Australia at 13 as part of a family reunion complicated by polygamy. His half-brother who had settled in Sydney got permission to bring his mother and siblings from Lebanon. Because his mother was married, she was able to bring her husband. At the time her husband was married to two other women. One of them (Trad's mother) came along, too, with her children. The older wife divorced her husband in Australia and the patriarch lived with Trad's mother.]

Dimia tells me that now, the child brought to Australia of a divorced wife left in an overseas country,can apply for family re-union and sponsor his/her mother to migrate here when that child is 18 yrs old.

It still seems to have the same result.

EXAMPLE.

Man + 4 wives+ 12 children.

-can bring 1 wife and 12 children.
-Those 12 children, when 18 yrs old, can then sponsor their mothers, who much be divorced from the father.

-Presumably, the mothers could then sponsor their brothers, sisters, etc etc... Or..even go back to Lebanon or somewhere and marry again and bring that spouse here, and so the multiplier effect continues.

This seems like a very unbalanced and dangerous bit of social policy.
Likely to create extensive networks of related people who share bonds and values which are totally foreign to our culture

Monogamous Migrant: 1 man 1 wife, 4 children. Family Reunion=2 sets of parents. TOTAL 10 People.

Polygamous Migrant: 1 man, 4 wives each with 4 children.
Migrates with 1 wife and 12 chidren and then 2 sets of parents.
4 parents + husband+wife+12 children =18 plus 3 ex wives when children are 18 = TOTAL 21 PEOPLE.

Then...the newly sponsored ex wives PARENTS 3 x 2 =6 more
Grand TOTAL 27 PEOPLE.
Posted by BOAZ_David, Monday, 18 September 2006 1:20:47 PM
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B_D, I look forward to reading empirical evidence from you to the effect that all of Australia's 360,000 Muslims from over 60 different ethnic groups and speaking over 200 languages engage in polygamous marriage.
Posted by Irfan, Monday, 18 September 2006 1:44:22 PM
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BD,

No wonder Muslems need to bring with them their own family laws and push for a new Islamic state and constitution - it's far too complex for our Australian monogamous society.
Posted by coach, Monday, 18 September 2006 3:36:33 PM
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A question on an even more dangerous matter;

Are they allowed to bring a wife who is their cousin ?
Are they allowed to marry a cousin here or must they go overseas to marry a cousin ?
Posted by Bazz, Monday, 18 September 2006 4:26:52 PM
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Hi Irfan,

Hi Fellow_Human,

http://www.panarmenian.net/news/eng/?nid=18514

Read and enjoy

http://www.a1plus.am/en/?page=issue&iid=40215

Read and enjoy

See, how the 'christians' react to these blasphemous acts.

Jesus Cartoons Everywhere and Christians Are Not Rioting .. Why?

I "Googled" and "Alta-Vista-ed" the phrase "Jesus Cartoon" this morning and found that there were quite a few to choose from. Most were from Christian sites, some from anti-Christian sites, some were whimsical, some were coarse and degrading, many were from European sites (mostly German with cartoon dialogues that defied translation by Babel Fish). There were even political cartoons from American newspapers.

When I was finished I checked for "Muhammed Cartoon" and found . . . nothing. Google and Alta Vista have apparently blocked access to the many Muhammed cartoon caricature that are everywhere on the internet these days. Even the newsworthy Danish cartoons that kicked off the current Islamist riots have been censored by these search engines.

I am sooooo glad that these internet gateways have no problems guiding me to all the pornography I (don't) want to find but are thoughtful enough (or scared of having their throats cut) to protect me from finding the images that have set off major international rioting.

A search for "Piss Christ", however, delivered over 45 "hits" (just of the image itself) on Google and 31 on Alta Vista. Go figure. Sure.

Apparently images of Jesus, no matter how demeaning or insulting, do not create a threat of rioting, burning down an embassy, boycotting a nation or beheading somebody. Clearly, the American news media are not afraid of Christians.
Posted by obozo, Monday, 18 September 2006 6:17:37 PM
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