Nayeefa Chowdhury ,

After reading your article, I am fainted. Can you please wake up from your dreams and feel the reality of your religion.

Africa:

Today, Mohammed Taha's : who was put on trial for blasphemy after his pro-government paper reprinted an article questioning the parentage of the prophet Muhammad : beheaded body has been found on the outskirts of the capital, Khartoum.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/5321368.stm

Asia:

Mumbai has emerged as a big centre of this racket where old Arabs as well as people belonging to other nationalities, like Algerians and blacks, come for “some fun”. Mohammed Ali Road, Nagpada, Mahim and some other areas have many guest houses. Such alliances are backed a small group of unscrupulous Kazis and agents. In one place in the Nagpada area a kazi receives groups of people, mostly Arabs and Algerians who are very old. He prepares a nikahnama and talaqnama simultaneously, marrying the old Arab to the victim, who is always a minor. The fee is from Rs 10,000 to to Rs 1 lakh or more, depending on the girl’s beauty. The client then spends one or two nights with the girl and then goes away. The girl’s parents are paid half the amount and the balance is pocketed by the agents.

Sixteen-year-old Haseena who was married to a 75-year-old Arab, Jorani, for Rs 10,000
Abbasi was 14 when she was married off.

http://www.deccanherald.com/deccanherald/jun202004/sl2.asp

These are just glimpses of your wonderful religion

If Coach is a 'fruitcake' after this post I will be classified as in the region of "fruitcakex1000+armchair_nazi+anynameulike"

But I intend to take to task the very foundation of Naeefa's position by exposing her prophet.

Nayeefa said:

"Let us be fair and judge Islam by not the criminal acts of a terrorist, but by its primary sources, namely the Koran (the canonical text) and sunnah (Prophetic practice), which formulate its principles."

Nayeefa, having just watched a documentary on Pablo Escobar, I find an astonishing number of similarities between his life and Mohameds.

1/ BRUTALITY and CRUELTY
-Murder of Kaab the poet and Abu Jaal
-Mutilation of prisoners while alive including hot irons in the eyes (camel thieves)
-Genocide of Banu Qurayza Jews.

2/ SEXUAL ADVENTURER.
-A liking for underage girls. (Ayesha at 9)
-A general lust for uncountable women. (Surah 33.50 read 'carefully')

3/ POPULAR AMONG THE POOR
Escobar raided rich government 'caravans' and used some of the proceeds to build a power base among the poor of Medayin, he built schools and churches. Mohamed raided Quraish caravans.. he was a common but smart CRIMINAL.

4/ WARM HEARTED FAMILY MAN.

It was Escobars love for his family which finally got him shot in 3 places. a 5 minute phone call enabled his whereabouts to be traced.

Mohamed was luckier..although I'm aware of a tradition suggesting he was poisoned by one of his captive slave girls.

So much for the SUNNAH !

Nayeefa, you can talk all you like about 'principle' but I can see only ONE difference between Escobar the drug king and Mohamed. Escobar did not establish a religion, BUT... he sure tried to attain high political office and became a member of parliament.
So, if Escobar established a religion it would have taken off for sure. His popularity even TODAY among the poor is tragically great.
Islam, grew in the same way. Based on brutality to 'outsiders' and kindness to the insiders.

CHALLENGE if anyone can demonstrate that ANY of the above charges cannot be supported from Islamic sources, I will apologise.

PRIMARY SOURCES.

You mention the Quran and Prophetic practice.

Sura 33:50 is a convenient "revelation" specially to mohamed listing all the women 'legal' for him. It states "This is only for YOU, not for the believers" .. and what is it that is specially for him ?

THIS.

in the context of 'women legal for the prophet'

" and a believing woman if she offers herself to the Prophet, and the Prophet wishes to marry her; a privilege for you only, not for the (rest of) the believers."

GIVE ME A BREAK Nayeefa !

This is the authorization to have AS MANY women as he likes.
Knock knock..helloooooo.. turn that brain of yours on please...

Given that apart from survival 'sex' is the strongest human motivation, does it not mildly suprise you that this man used Allah to justify that most primal of human urges FOR HIMSELF ONLY...

So the question is not 'Mossie or Aussie' and please don't waste our time with references to Islamic contributions to science, or 'nice words of restraint' in the Quran.. THIS MAN WROTE IT... and I fail to see any basis for his claim as being any kind of messenger of God.

If Pablo Escobar, had written similar words, (I'll BET he spoke such things to his beloved chidren !) and started a religion, all the poor he aided financially would follow it. They would pay particular attention to his nice words, and would promote this 'new faith' as something wonderful.

Look at him as a reasonable person would... (to use a legal test) and run..RUN from this darkness that has enfolded you, take off the scales on your eyes...

I urge you to turn from darkness to light, from falsehood to truth, from the distortion of Mohamed to the clarity of Christ. Turn to him who is 'The' Way, 'The' Truth, and 'The' Life.

If I declined from speaking truth, I would betray the Author of Life,
and in your heart of hearts, you know I am speaking that truth from which there is no escape.

BD, for once your approach of challenging the teaching in the Koran and the life of Mohammed is valid, the author insists that Islam be judged on that basis.

As you pointed out "Let us be fair and judge Islam by not the criminal acts of a terrorist, but by its primary sources, namely the Koran (the canonical text) and sunnah (Prophetic practice), which formulate its principles."

Maybe the difference here is the difference between what the author wants Islam to be judged by and how most mulsims live in this country.

Just as with christains I'm glad most don't take the example of their god and prophets to seriously.

R0bert

The description of THE “Australian pop-culture of pornography, gambling, alcoholism, and drug addiction,” says exactly what this woman thinks of our infidel culture. If she thinks our culture is just about such vices then she and her Mossie friends plainly don’t understand Australia.

It’s a relief to see so few people here buying the ‘Islam is really a nice religion,’ but to those naive infidel who think it is being unfairly condemned and deserves a fair go, please, please, PLEASE, just go pick up a paperback translation of the Koran at any book store. It’s an easy read but be warned, even with a warm and fuzzy open mind, you will find it hard not to conclude that Islam is a religion of war and hatred. Yes it has all sorts of nice rules for how Muslims should be nice to Muslims, but it’s instructions on how Muslims should treat everyone else are no where near as soft and cuddly.

DB is on the money on this issue!

RObert,

I don't need to consult BD or anyone else on matters of gender equality in Christianity - my reference like BD is the Word of the true God - the Bible. God created them "one" man and woman to His likeness. Jehovah is a personal intimate God not elusive and remote like Allah.

Just a reminder in case you see gender inequalities in Australia - this is not a Theocracy (as Islam wants it to become).

Irfan,

Grow up mate and stop deflecting the issues. We are not all stupid and inferior to you. You want Islam go back to were Islam is - but don't bring it and impose it on the rest of us.

BD,

Well said - unfortunately you are talking to the deaf, blind and dumb here. Nayeefa like most other Muslems are sincerely following and surrendering their eternal life to a false religion. They are sincerely wrong but cannot question their religion because they were told not to by Allah and his prophet. What are they afraid of? that their followers will discover the truth?

They are also commended not to befriend unbelievers - same reason it might make them think for the first time and maybe see the light and convert out of Islam.

Mercurius,

Muslems will try anything to convince you of the purity and sanctity of their religion. They are allowed to lie, to use any means to "revert" people to their ways. Beware of the wolf dressed in cheep clothing.