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Sleeping with a devil in Islamic clothing : Comments

By Bashir Goth, published 1/9/2006

Islamists hide women because they have masculinity problems; ban music because it is beyond their control; ban theatres and cinemas to keep people ignorant.

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Thanks sage for that info. If I was to guess I would have picked Whitlam, Grazzby or Frazer, they being the main ones around at the time MC was implemented. I'll file the info as it could be very usefull.

Kenny. Knowing nothing about me you conclude that I am full of hate for all sorts of people and fearfull of others. How come? Simply because I see shortcomings of MC? Or is it that because you cannot bear being shown some of the baggage that MC carries, and you cannot counter it, you resort to personal attack.

People that support integration do not hate others. They say 'Welcome, be part of our society' I prefer to call new comers 'New Australians'. Their ethnicity is not important. It is their willingness to be part of our society that is most important.

It is not good enough to say we are MC and therefore you can do as your culture dictates. There are many aspects of other cultures that either are against the law or socially unacceptable to us and we should make this perfectly clear to prospective immigrants.

I agree with the PM and incidently, so do some Muslim leaders. I also agree with what Peter Costello said a few months ago and what that NZ Parliamentarian said a few weeks back.

After 30 or so years of trial, MC is shown to be a defunct, unworkable ideology and the sooner it dissappears totally the better. We have wasted Millions of both State and Federal funds proping it up for far too long.

You claim that the countries that have not embraced tolerance and MC are the ones in trouble. Well just have a good look around. England and many European countries are in a terrible pickle simply because of MC. Law and order there is breaking down and ethnic violence common.
European countries are now waking up to their folly

I suggest you remove your blinkers and your rose coloured glasses and take a look at the real world.
Posted by Banjo, Saturday, 2 September 2006 9:45:28 PM
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Well said Banjo, every country that's multi cultural and multi monotheistic, is a basket case. MC is dead, just hasn't laid down yet. I also agree with mickijo, “Those who wish to live by medievil ,dark ways should be sent back to the places where that system belongs.”

It does raise one problem though, would we have enough ships to carry all the jews, muslin and christians to the middle east, after all, that's their origins and their all in this together.

Debates like this have no ending, just get more and more frustrating for those with religious agenda's. What really bugs me is as long as I can remember, we've been told by monotheists coming here from other countries, that we have no culture, Australia is a culture less country.

The sad thing is monotheists are to ignorant to recognise freedom, acceptance and mateship when they see it. They lead their lives controlled by their beliefs, so can only discriminate, not assimilate or accept. All monotheistic beliefs are discriminative and have but one agenda, convert and control.

Only one solution, ban the expression of religion, wearing of religious clothing or paraphernalia in public. Ban all non Australian language in media, advertising and print, anyone who can't speak Australian within a year remove them. This is our country, not some place where the moronic followers of god can install their barbaric cultures and bizarre morals, by stealth or aggression. If you believe in god, your certainly sleeping with the devil
Posted by The alchemist, Sunday, 3 September 2006 12:38:48 PM
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Multiculturalism 'dead', DB?

Terriffic. Back to the old witchetty grubs & grilled bluetongue for dinner tonight.
Posted by bennie, Sunday, 3 September 2006 3:29:01 PM
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Last Australia Day, stinking hot, down at the local public pool.

Group of adolescents of both genders and varying ethnicities skylarking in the deep end.

Suddenly from the group I hear this girl's voice, broad Australian accent, yell:

"Stop pulling me f**king hijab off, or I'll belt ya!"
Posted by Snout, Sunday, 3 September 2006 6:09:05 PM
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Great point Bennie! - in the wise cogent diction of The Herd:

"Captain Cook was the very first queue jumper
It was immigrant labour that made Australia plumper
Enough is enough, whiteys go pack your stuff
Don't wanna live in England? That's f**g tough
I'm sick and tired of this redneck wonderland
Most've you stay silent and I can't understand."
Posted by Mon564a, Sunday, 3 September 2006 8:07:29 PM
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Snout and Mon

let me put it as simply as possible.

"Australian first, ethnicity second and fading"

That pretty well sums up my whole position.

Our goal should be in my view to create a sense of Australian-ness apart from any ethnicity. This includes English/Irish/Scottish as well as the various European and Asian sources of migrants.

The Australia post world war II migrants came to had a particular cultural flavor/texture and social/legal structure.
Migrants were 'INVITED' to come.. not to bring their histories and ethnic conflicts or racist views of other ethnicities here, but to build and defend a more robust Australia. But lets be clear on one thing. It was an Australia that had a culture and character and language.

While we are enriched and benefit from new foods, and the contribution which other cultures inevitably bring simply by the first generation rubbing shoulders with the existing inhabitants, there are reasonable limits which most would understand.

The simple rule should be "Do for others as you would have them do for you in your old country".

Would they like us to erect signage everywhere that only we can read ?
or..set up clubs to which only our ethnicity is welcome? Or establish newsprint which is unintelligable to them ? (creating immediate suspicion) or chaneling economic activity and trade along our own ethnic lines in their country ? etc etc... in short, we don't go to another country to create a 'state within a state' to use some contemporary jargon.

Such terms as little Italy, Little Greece, Chinatown etc are ethnocentric at best, and racist at worst. They certainly do NOT contribute to a homogenous and well integrated, cohesive society free from ethnic strife.

In the case of Islam, and Muslims, there are special issues of importance. Europeans of 'Christian' background are immediately compatable. Muslims are not. The world view is different in a way which will ultimately lead to conflict. "Lambing Flat 2" ?
Posted by BOAZ_David, Monday, 4 September 2006 8:10:45 AM
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