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Pain for poor people in minimum wage : Comments

By Des Moore, published 26/9/2006

Setting a basic wage does more to hinder jobs than create them.

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Col someone has to break this to you. You have grown into a bitter twisted soul. Your last ranting post seems like a desperate plea for help. Join us brother. Join us in our quest for a just society. Let go of your love and admiration for Dear Maggie,Cute Ronnie, Cuddly Idi,Gorgeous George and Hilarious Johnnie. Consider lending your hand to a nieghbour. Consider not voting in your own self intrest.Sit down and read Workchoices and the Independant Contractors Bill. Ask yourself what they really are about.If you cant concede the bleeding obvious, catch up with Des Moore , Bob Day et al at your next HR Nicholls Society meeting and have a nice cup of tea.
Posted by hedgehog, Thursday, 5 October 2006 12:08:43 PM
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Col

Your superciliuos ravings about a moral society are a load of bollocks.

You are advocating survival of the fittest, a dog eat dog Australia where you endlessly chase the goal of a bigger share of the pie.

A fair days pay for a fair days work is all I ask.

I hope you feel well in your uncaring life, I also hope that real misfortune never affects you.

What you are advocating is called greed. Sad, greedy old Col what are you doing here? You should be studying, increasing your productivity not spewing sewage on OLO.
Posted by Steve Madden, Thursday, 5 October 2006 1:53:38 PM
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Steady on Steve. Col is just sticking up for Des.Yes Des, that greedy advocate for a dog eat dog society. Where Govt. keep there noses out of Corporations Business. Except of course when Govt is slavishly paving the way for more corporate plundering. Independant Contractors indeed.
Posted by hedgehog, Thursday, 5 October 2006 2:07:37 PM
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When I hear someone say that you can help the poor by paying them only the crumbs left from the peanuts eaten by the bosses, I wonder from which etheral plain they get their thinking from. Obviously these people have absolutely no idea about being poor.

It is a hard situation to fix and jacking up wages or paying dust will not help. What we should learn is that such policy of abolishing the minimum wage will only lead to big business using this to increase company profits which entails yet another hefty salary increase and another gorgeous bonus because after all, two more trucks loaded with gold bullion just isn't enough.

As the wages go down, big business who control and manipulated the market for their own financial gain, will increase what we pay with some lame excuse but only to fill their pockets.

People, if we must have ideology, throw the zealous globalists and commies into the ocean without a raft and use the true ideals of fascism which is about allowing the state to run essential infrastructure and allow small business to run like normal. Allow the farmers to set the price, not big business. Allow families to live like people, not scavengers seeking out their scraps for the night or month.

There is no reason to end democracy unless the people are too short sighted and too selfish which tends to be the way in this so called civilised society.
Posted by Spider, Thursday, 5 October 2006 11:55:49 PM
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Oh hedgehog” You have grown into a bitter twisted soul.”

Not at all, I am a particularly happy individual who is in control of his life and future and not needing to interfere, as you seem to want to do in the private decisions plans and strategies of people you do not know.

You are the one who introduced your low vernacular to the debate (eg “crap”). Such descent is typical of the know-it-all nobody who is frustrated with the life achievement (or lack there of). Bitter Twisted soul is merely you projecting your social inadequacies (just as your choice of expression “crap” projects inadequacies in your vocabulary).

Steve Madden “Your superciliuos ravings about a moral society are a load of bollocks.”

Like hedgehog, you display your own paucity of expression and poor spelling (mixed with a pretentious style of the wannabe).

“What you are advocating is called greed.”
Not at all – I am advocating self-reliance, the stuff which strengthens communities, instead of your dull minded leveler’s attitude of a "safety net" paid for by taxing personal incentive and innovation out of existence and thus, weakening the general community overall.

When you have something to say I will listen but I will not be holding my breath

Hedgehog “Independant Contractors indeed.”

I have spent over 20 years as an independent contractor, working across a range of industries and continents. I presently have more work than I can handle, based on achieving performance levels which more than satisfy my government and commercial clients. It is a good lifestyle where I decide who I will work for. That is better than being a frustrated nobody who begrudges other people success and independence – now, that is bitter and twisted

I suggest you find somewhere to crawl up and die and stop wasting good air.
Posted by Col Rouge, Friday, 6 October 2006 7:32:27 PM
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Col

You really are a nasty little neo- fascist:

“The working class can kiss my ass, I have the foreman’s job at last” is one of your more enlightening comments. You imply that self reliance and a decent wage are mutually exclusive, I vehemently oppose your view.

I’m all right Jack, is your philosophy a philosophy of greed, arrogance, selfishness and ultimately the seed of your own miserable existence.

You seem to be arguing for the removal of any minimum wage, easy for you to do. As an individual contractor do you have a minimum rate for your services? Do you consider yourself “better” than others because you are self employed? Have you ever employed others?

I believe in giving others a helping hand to improve their lives, you want to trample them into the dirt so you can advance your own pathetic race for wealth.

Sorry Col you are completely wrong, find a time machine and return to Thatcher’s England where you can fit in with the other economic rationalist peanuts of the era.

“Reality hasn't really intervened in my mother's life since the seventies.” - Carol Thatcher, Margaret Thatcher's daughter

Has reality ever intervened in your life Col?
Posted by Steve Madden, Saturday, 7 October 2006 8:44:09 AM
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