Hello Bosk:

You wrote:

"The only problem is according to this text Paul is actually arguing that homosexuality is punishment for not worshipping God properly! Homosexuals are born that way. So if these versus are correct then the baby must have been worshipping God improperly in the womb. LMAO.

The problem with your argument, if you consider the central message of the Bible at all, is that all people are born sinful.

Consider the full quote From 1 Corinthians 6:

9 Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived; neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor homosexuals,

10 nor thieves, nor the covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers, will inherit the kingdom of God.

In other words, there are a whole lot of people who Paul makes comment on, who all go against God's will.

It should be remembered that all of the above must turn from sin and follow Christ to inherit the kingdom of God.

I will argue against Christians using 'the law' (which never saved anyone) against the actions of immoral others as I am against those who want to say that the law does not apply to them, like yourself.

Each person (including my flawed self), must eventually answer to God, not to me or any other person for our morality. By all means have your gay marriages and civil unions, others can have their adulterous relationships, others may get drunk with wine rather than being filled with the Holy Spirit. I cannot see how laws against these will do any good.

Just don't claim Holy blessing on what you do using Holy Scripture.

And maybe all those Christians who are against these things should remember what Christ said: "Let he who is without sin cast the first stone." Let God judge people's morality.

Can someone here spell out what is it exactly that a same sex marriage will improve on the current relationships?

Someone mentioned rights of hospital visitation and care for a dying mate. I find no reason why this is not being allowed.

Is it for financial reasons? For example enheritance…I would have thought de facto relationships are good enough these days.

Also homosexuals are asking the church to stay out of their lives. How can that be possible? We share the same planet.

How can a loving Christian family raising their children on biblical principles (marriage) then have to explain that Bob and Harry or Jane and Di next door have another type of marriage allowed by society?

We cannot shut you out because you are “in our faces” everywhere unashamed, noisy, and ever demanding rights and more rights. Too bad if the rest of the world disagrees with your debauchery.

I don’t care if you believe you were born that way or decided to lust (punt intended) for each other later in life. Sin is sin. Love it is not. If you knew the real meaning of love you would be on your knees right now asking God for forgiveness.

Living in sin (pride) is what God so detests. No amount of sugar coating will make it more palatable.

There is no convincing reason why you should continue to alienate yourself from God, or worse persuade God to change His rules for you; and believe that you can argue your case of self-imposed damnation.

Rejecting God does not hide you from His wrath. You are so deep in your transgressions that you have lost the ability to see right from wrong.

Jesus’ final words on the cross: “Father, forgive them for they don’t know what they are doing”.

Repent, and seek help while you still have a chance.

Accusations of bigotry. Waffle about conservatism and fundamental Christianty (no mention of Islam which is really opposed to homosexuality). It's surprising that there have not been squeals for a Bill of Rights to protect homos.

Good old common decency doesn't get a mention. But there's not too much of that about these days. Everyone has a 'right' to do as he or she pleases. All of us who have only a decade or so left in the cesspit should be very glad.

The frantic defences of homosexuality and the 'rights' of people of the same sex to have their odd relationships recognised in law indicate that it is not only the people who confess to being homosexuals who are having trouble with their sexuality. People who can support such behaviour need to have a long, hard think about themselves.

Geez, davo, which discussion are you participating in here? Let me remind you of the marriage statistics above http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?article=4598#45246 which you are conveniently ignoring: in 2004 there were 111,000 marriages and 52,747 divorces in this country. Every single one of them involved a man and a woman. Gay unions aren’t undermining marriages – the people who are allowed to marry are doing a great job of it by themselves.

Unlike straight relationships, it’s not possible to say that homosexual relationships don’t last, because being unrecognised, there are no reliable statistics.

But since you’re interested, you might like to take a look at the submissions to the HREOC Inquiry on Same-sex relationships http://www.hreoc.gov.au/samesex/submissions_index.html You will see some of the obstacles that same-sex couples have to overcome in order to stay together.

Leigh, I think you’ll find that the reason anti-gay muslims aren’t being mentioned is because there aren’t any here. Most of the loopiness is coming from people who claim to be christian, though there are some here whose religious beliefs require them to behave honourably towards same-sex attracted people.

When you claim that de-criminalising homosexuality was misguided, you’re trying to take us all back to medieval barbarism. Bigotry and persecution (your terms, not mine) are entirely appropriate for what you are advocating here.

No doubt you’re both aware of the research which indicates that those who hate homosexuals the most are more likely to be repressed homosexuals themselves: http://snipurl.com/aktl

LEIGH WROTE: “Fair minded Australians” believe that homosexual couples should have their twisted relationships protected by law, do they?

Leigh's comments exemplify the acid of the anti-gay lobby (comprised of militant homophobes, heterosupremacists, hypertraditionalists, theocrats & homocontrarians) & show how opposition to same-sex rights is very much based on irrational fear, loathing or hatred of same-sex attraction.

We have on our hands a modern day witch hunt. Same-sex couples and their children the victims of a fear-inspiring mob with pitchforks at the ready. They are well-resourced, influential, determined and have no tolerance for diversity. They do not promote an authentic best interest for all Australians.

In contrast, according to Newspoll, ACNielsen, nineMSN poll, the electors of the ACT Government & the overwhelmingly positive feedback received by Senator Gary Humphries (who crossed the floor to vote for the disallowance of the ACT Civil Union override), many Australians DO support a fairer go for same-sex couples. The younger the demographic, the greater the support. So despite the laughable, paranoid claims of the caterwauling "We Hate Homos" lobby, ordinary real Australians, going about their daily lives, are neither scared nor threatened by the prospect of legal same-sex partnerships. What they're probably fed up with is tome-thumping religionists and contemptuous homophobes demanding legal and social conformity to their mean cultish views.

Clearly, sizeable support exists in the community for giving same-sex couples a fair and equal opportunity under the law. And rightly so. Australia is, after all, a Commonwealth -- not an AngloHeteroChristianWealth.

Now that is something WORTH having a good hard think about.

To those who are vitriol to same sex couples. I question your understanding of the meaning of Love, as it appears you have no respect to those who are not of your thinking.

Have you ever had true love in your lives? It would be interesting to read the comments of your spouses ( that is if, you are in a committed relationship).

I am grateful that I am not a follower of your "God", as there appears to be no love within your flock, only bitterness and ignorance