Indeed indonesia must take different path of democracy.

It has been proven that democracy has its own diseases, when people are like ants compared the gigantic power of the capitalists, the merciless governments, and the above-the-law state intellegence services.

What does mature democracy mean? Would it prevent powers from being corrupt? Or democracy is the only way allowed for powers to civilizedly corrupt?

Mother nature relatively kind to us and even we respect her disasters as a kind of warning for us. I pray to God to protect my country Indonesia from the kind of illness we never suffer throughout our history, that we will able to know our limit and tame our own desire.

We could be good neighbours one to another as long as Aussie is a kind of healthy system who never twist democracy, human rights and another goodness of millenium for the sake of hidden yet easily known human desires.

Amen.

If neighbours are involved in various crimes then to be friendly to them, and assist them materially, amounts to being accessories to their crimes.
So what is the ‘friendship’ between the Australian government and the thieves and criminals that control Indonesia? It may be a country, but the people who have power are participants in a huge criminal conspiracy against the majority of the population. They steal everything they can and aren’t accountable because the extent of the corruption extends to every sector and level of Indonesian political, commercial and administrative life and is the root cause of most of the problems experienced by the millions who don’t share in the stolen wealth of the nation but suffer the consequences of a ruling class government and administration bent on lining their own pockets at their expense.
A mix of incompetence and corruption.
The ill legal system, which is said to hand out the best judgements money can buy, is so completely crooked that it is impossible to even get into law school without paying a bribe, and after that everything has a price. Like all things in Indonesia. Whether it is buying your driver’s license or passing a vehicle emission test, or getting out of jail.
The police and army are all involved in smuggling drugs, logs, endangered animals and electronics.
According to the Jakarta Post 35% of all money provided by foreign governments and agencies is stolen by government employees. Did the Australian government take that into account when it allocated over a billion dollars of Australian taxpayer’s money that maybe 350 million dollars, or more, will end up in the dirty hands of the most disgustingly greedy thieves in Jakarta; or do they think that is okay? Just the price of diplomacy.
The Indonesian government is made up of fraudsters, thieves, murderers, smugglers, drug dealers, people traffickers, and a few honest people. Just what would the Indonesian government have to do before John Howard would severe diplomatic ties, or at least, stop giving them money and legitimacy?

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"Just what would the Indonesian government have to do before John Howard would severe diplomatic ties, or at least, stop giving them money and legitimacy?"

Lol.
Actually, Indonesia seriously considered to severe the diplomatic ties with Australia over Papua because it was our national integrity at stake. As a foreign ministry spokesman said, severing the ties with Australia was an option on the table, yes it was seriously considered.
At that time, both the govt and Indonesians people are ready to face whatever the consequences are. We have to prepare ourselves.
You can stop giving aid us when we face another disaster, and you can start finding other ways for your trading ships to go to China, Japan, Korea etc without passing through Indonesian waters.
I mean if you really want to cut ties with Indonesia, just as many Indonesians want the govt to cut ties with Australia, then both must ready to face the consequences.

As for the corruption, SBY is trying so hard to fight it, and he said that we need 'shock therapy'. So we see big names are in jail now for corruption, other big names are on trial, and the trend will continue.
It's not an easy task, it would take time, but I believe he's on the right track and worth to be supported

"The Indonesian government is made up of fraudsters, thieves, murderers, smugglers, drug dealers, people traffickers, and a few honest people."

Very serious accusation here and of no value. And this come from a country who is very well-known of it very very dark history with the Aborinial people. Duh

I really wonder why Australia should bother with Indonesia at all. If it were up to me I would cut all ties with this ungrateful, corrupt entity. This maladministered archipelago has such a puffed up sense of self-importance, but from what? The colossal egos of their leaders, the diplomatic games they play with official visit appointments - what on earth do they have to be proud of? Indonesia does not seem to understand that respect cannot be demanded - it has to be earned. Anyway, on a world level who really cares about this minor economic pygmy - from now on China is the only game in town.

This contemptible country cannot properly house, feed, or clothe its people, you cannot drink water from the taps, sanitation is abysmal. To me these are the things that command respect. Countries that have hauled themselves out of poverty and provide for their citizens like Japan, South Korea, Taiwan, Singapore, Estonia etc deserve respect, but this neighbour of ours does not. Countries like Norway and Sweden also deserve respect because of how they care for their citizens and the good works they do on the international scene. Australia is so unlucky to be situated next to this monstrous entity, and it is the only country on Earth I refuse to ever set foot in.

^ Indonesia is the best country in terms of improving the lives of its citizens. Since independence, we've increased literacy rate from 5% to 90%. We've reduced poverty rate from 90% to 10%. We've increased life expectancy from 35 years to 70 years. Almost every single infrastructure existing in Indonesia is built after independence. These accomplishments are attained while Indonesia must start from practically zero after the devastations of WWII and war of independence, despite the fact Indonesia has 250 million people divided into 750 ethnicities living in 18,000 islands stretching the distance from Ireland to Iran. It is without doubt, considering this difficulties, Indonesia is the best country in improving the lives of its citizens.

We have nothing to learn from Australia, a minor stooge of USA and an illegally-established "country" who've despicably committed genocide against its indigenous Aboriginal population and have cruelly stolen their land.

"it is the only country on Earth I refuse to ever set foot in."

I urge all Australians to leave Indonesia immediately. We don't need drug-smugglers in our midst, they only spread bad health.

"Australia is so unlucky to be situated next to this monstrous entity"

There is an excellent solution to this predicament of yours: return Australia to Aborigines now, and go back to whatever place you came from.

@Ningtyas
Seriously, SBY might talk about "shock therapy" but it didn't bring the murderers of Munir to justice even though everyone knew who poisoned him to death while on a Garuda flight, because they are SBY's old buddies. I'd love to see Indonesia get it's act together, for the sake of the millions living in misery and because Australia and Indonesia need to be good neighbours, but the corrupt mentality goes too deep. Sure some things have improved but the problems are so huge and there isn't a young generation of leaders to challenge the new New Order.
Even the late and great Pramoedya Ananta Toer said the only hope for Indonesia was revolution to decapitate the entrenched elite. Indonesia needs all the help it can get so it has to get real about being a global citizen. I think a lot of the indignation from Indonesians comes from knowing that the superficial religiosity they present just shows up the depth of depravity practiced by just about anyone with power to burn slums, clear forests, run away to Singapore with their loot, murder judges, or in Soeharto's case, just sit right in the middle of Jakarta safe in the knowledge that no-one will hold him accountable for all the dead and disapeared during his time on top.