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Desperate enough to come to Australia : Comments

By Howard Glenn, published 11/5/2006

The use of Nauru and Manus Island from 2001 to 2005 as processing centres for asylum seekers was a horrible experience for all involved and should not be repeated.

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Pickledherring,

Entering any country without correct documentation is illegal, so stop talking rubbish. I won’t be going to Nauru because I am an Australian citizen, not an illegal immigrant. And, as I said, if these illegals are really escaping from such horrors, as people like you believe, Nauru would seem like heaven.

Hasbeen,

Agree with you entirely. If the situations in some of these countries were as bad as activists claim, we would have whole populations knocking on the door. We just get the opportunists who desert their country for a better one.

The whole business of how it is decided who is genuine and who is not needs to be open. It seems that all the Immigration Department goes on is stories from applicants who could be lying in their teeth. In general, it seems, anyone who turns up with a good yarn is allowed to stay in Australia. And, how can we trust a Department who deports an Australian citizen and locks up an Australian resident.
Posted by Leigh, Friday, 12 May 2006 2:24:19 PM
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I am now positive there is a doppleganger in or midst masquerading as Boaz David - in a second post he has now cussed and posted with out a single biblical reference;

This is such a departure from his normal form to make me suspicious indeed. What once set him apart from the crowd of Xenophobes has evaporated -

And keep at it Marylin - ignore the slings and arrows - pretty soon some one will claim to have bested you in the debate because you've made your case and there is little else to say. It happens all the time.

I just pop in to these threads now and again for a bit of a laugh - but it pays to keep in touch with the views of the dark side every now and again.
Posted by sneekeepete, Friday, 12 May 2006 2:46:59 PM
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What about some of these gutless 'asylum seekers' showing a bit of backbone and fighting for their country instead of rushing to western nations for all the freebies they can get their hands on?
The biggest trouble in today's world appears to be Muslim v Muslim. Why in the hell should Australians have to made responsible for the losers?
We have our own problems but we are drowning in an overload of fanatically religious foreigners whom we want no part of.
Australian Migration should be thinking long term and the consequences of allowing the wrong sort of migrant into Australia.
Posted by mickijo, Friday, 12 May 2006 3:11:49 PM
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OK Leigh - I guess the 1 million Australian's who have left to live elsewhere are just opportunists who leave their own country for a better one. Yes? Under the refugee convention it is accepted and legal for anyone fleeing persecution to enter a country that has signed the refugee convention - without papers.

The only story anyone can tell that allows them to stay is that they are being persecuted, face persecution and it is well founded. If you have a problem with that you need to talk to Bob Menzies who helped to author it.

David Boaz, the Hazara did go to Iran and were sent back to Afghanistan. You need to read the historical context of the Hazara who were the dogs vomit in Pakistan, Iran and Afghanistan because they are largely pacifist and shi'ite moderates. Should moderates live in a country led by lunatic fundamentalists when the Iranian moderates have to leave?

Iran tolerated 3 million Afghans for 20 years without help from the outside community but in 1998 started to kick them out, deny them education and work rights, housing rights or protection of any kind. So a few left. I defy anyone on this forum not to do the same, after all Australian's are pretty good at caring only for themselves.
Posted by Marilyn Shepherd, Friday, 12 May 2006 3:18:34 PM
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Sneekeepete or little bo peep whatever this time Andrew as Maralyin claims to work with you on these matters perhaps she should be paid.
your job is to look after Australians first.
M it is not attacking a person to suggest they get a job working from home. At least you put your name to all your posts unlike some. I am just wondering if you can see our point at all about your strange idea of letting people arrive and go into the suburbs spreading disease and expecting free housing food while running us down.It seems to be a pattern once given a hand out people turn on the givers whoever they are.

Of course people on welfare should be allowed to vote but I do think we should know how many people are on the dole longer than three years that dont do some sort of public service as opposed to the tax payers.

So M you say you dont like aboriginals but you like any person who demands to come here stay and live off welfare.

Umm

I make no apoiligies for putting Australian familys first and we have many homeless people being ignored.

This is a small country and muslims are far better off in muslim countries . Look what happend in the UK do you really want that here?
I am refering to an act of parliment to change the law regarding divorce and marriage if you are Mulim.In short if you are Muslim you dont have to obey british law when it comes to being married to just one person.Thats how much thse migrants respect the country that took them on.
Posted by Wendy Lewthwaite, Saturday, 13 May 2006 5:36:27 AM
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The current Nauru and Manus destinations are too pleasant, I suggest Herd Island. As long as we continue with our multiculturalism and do-good approach more refugees will come. Make them less welcome and fewer will come. Most of these people are unhinged by their religion and seem to breakdown quickly in detention centres and start sewing lips etc. They have little to offer and seem able to exploit our social security system. I wonder what sort of future citizens their offspring will make with this background?
Posted by SILLE, Saturday, 13 May 2006 10:04:43 AM
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