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By Susan Connelly, published 21/4/2006The house is alight and the neighbours are fleeing - so does Australia ignore the plight of West Papuans?
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Posted by Kekenidika, Tuesday, 2 May 2006 11:53:25 AM
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Part TWO
The city of Surbaya, with tens of thousands of prostitutes, is the largest sex industry center in South East Asia, which consists of hectares and hectares of modest houses with large, plate-glass windows where bored girls sit waiting: "streets full of human aquariums". It is also a magnet for the divorced and dispossessed women of the strict Islamic villages. The sex industry serves as a source of women for prostitution in provincial towns, through a black market network of pimps. (Louise Williams, "Sex in the Cemetary," Sydney Morning Herald, 25 January 1997) There are 12,000 to 31,000 people currently dying from AIDS every year in Indonesia, and half a million will be infected by 2000. Most women say they are in prostitution because they have been divorced and abandoned by men. Many divorcees are still young, having married in their teens and separated in their early 20s. Having lost their virginity they are of less value as second wives Most men refuse to wear condoms and if women insist, they accuse them of having a disease. (Louise Williams, "Sex in the Cemetery," Sydney Morning Herald, 25 January 1997) Migrant Chinese Indonesians arrived in Malaysia in July 1998 as a result of the violence against them in Indonesia. Fathers have been forced to rape their daughters, and brothers to rape their sisters. The rapes are video recorded, and displayed on the Internet. Indonesians are pretending to be soldiers "putting red, green and blue crosses on houses"-red to encourage burning the house, green to encourage rape against the females, and blue to encourage stealing. At night they then commit these crimes. People are offering US$ 6 to rape a Chinese Indonesian. A Chinese university student is in the hospital in Singapore for operations to remove her uterus as a result of the damage done to her by being gang raped and sodomized. 5,000 Chinese Indonesians have died, and there is a suspected cover-up by Jakarta president Habibe. (Audra Lim, documenting personal communications, Institute of Noise and Vibration HVAC Research Programme, 17 July 1998) Posted by Kekenidika, Tuesday, 2 May 2006 11:54:23 AM
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@Philo:
LOL, Freeport already gave more than 30% of its revenue to local tribes and local government! No matter how much money the mining company gave Papuans, these barbaric separatists will never be satisfied, as they only want to use Freeport as part of their propaganda. How dare you call these barbaric murderers as "victims" while they violently murdered and mutiliated unarmed Indonesian policemen? Then make the victims into the bad guys? These separatist murderers are just animals, around 80 of these barbarians are now in custody and are facing justice. These murderers should expect no mercy! Your callous disregard for Indonesian lives snuffed-out by these barbarians just shows the kind of barbaric genocidaires white Australians are. How if a criminal raped, murdered, and mutiliated your mother and burned her corpse. You shouldn't press for the criminal to be punished, won't you? @Kekendika: LOL, calm down looney. Indeed there is prostitution in Indonesia like in any other country in the world, which is caused mainly by poverty. But Indonesia is nowhere near the massive prostitution industry of our smaller neighbours Thailand and Philippines, the favourite sex-tourism destination for Australian perverts. As I remember, Australia legalise prostitution and one brothel even sell shares in Australian stock exchange. Can I say this Australian promotion of prostitution meant Australians "prostitute their women"? About alleged Chinese "rapes", those are just untrue wild rumours with no correlation with reality. There have been many investigations by Taiwanese and Hongkong groups, but they completely failed to find a single verifiable rape case. Ethnic-Chinese women in Indonesia has nothing to worry. In fact, Indonesia has the largest overseas Chinese population in the world (12 million people). Here's a link to the happy lifestyle of beautiful Indonesian models, many of whom have degrees of Chinese blood in them: http://www.asiafinest.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=8772 http://www.asiafinest.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=72562 Posted by Proud to be Indonesian, Wednesday, 3 May 2006 2:00:26 AM
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PTBI,
We well recognise you do not consider the native Papuans as Indonesian by your constant remarks and shunning of them as being Indonesian. Your constant reference to them as barbaric separatists as distinct from them actually being Indonesian indicates you actively believe in their eradication. These people are native to this land upon which they have lived for thousands of years, you intend to eradicate them by military genocide, racial interbreeding, and the use of AIDS infected prostitutes. We in Australia respect the native peoples of our nation and have no intention of genocide or their destruction no matter how much some of them might want a seperate nationhood. They are Australian and always will be. Your constant contrasting between being Indonesian and West Papuan indicates your racial hatred of these West Papuans. Posted by Philo, Thursday, 4 May 2006 7:33:44 PM
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@Philo:
You are fool, you fail to recognise the difference between Papuans and barbaric separatists. Only tiny minority of native Papuans are influenced by toxic barbaric separatism, majority of them are nice decent people who are law-abiding Indonesian citizen. As for you, answer my question: If a barbaric Papuan separatist raped, murdered, and mutiliated your mother and burned her corpse like they did to innocent Indonesian citizens, you wouldn't demand their punishment, won't you? You put no value on the lives of Indonesian citizens, don't you? Just like you put no value on the lives and culture of Aborigines, you uncivilised whites! Posted by Proud to be Indonesian, Thursday, 4 May 2006 11:31:32 PM
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Yan [Ian] I will be reporting you the Australian immigration as you live and work in Australia, obviously illegally.
1. you are extremely racist and anti-Australian. 2. you occupy a position as a radiologist that could be easily filled by a genuine loyal Australian. 3. you are divisive to Australian society by your attitudes and your undermining loyalties to another country. 4. you are here in Liverpool to spy on the Australian military position with contacts in Holdsworthy. You will be soon receiving a visit from Amanda Vanstone's crew; so I suggest you pack your bags and go home ASAP. We are watching you! You are an undesirable barbarian in a civilised society. Posted by Philo, Friday, 5 May 2006 8:29:13 PM
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Dee, Ludwig and all - a little digging gives some background on some bitterness, so now it is my opinion that not all it seems to be and while he castigates Australians as "genocidists" (sic) it is another matter for Indonesians to prostitute their own women....... and of course to rape other ethnic minorities – they are not real people, not Javanese - they are only Chinese
There are between 140,000 and 230,000 prostituted persons in Indonesia (1993-1994 estimates). Prostituted persons are mainly adult women, but there are also male, transvestite and child prostitutes, both girls and boys. ("Sex trade key part of S.E. Asian economies," Kyodo News, 18 August 1998)
There are at least 650,000 prostitutes in Indonesia. In 1998 there were 150,000 registered prostitutes compared to 72,000 in 1995. 30 percent are children. (Yogyakarta Free Children Society, Mohammad Farid, "Indonesian economic crisis boosts prostitution," Reuters, 26 July 1998)
There were 65,582 registered prostitutes in 1994. The highest estimate is 500,000 women in prostitution. (CATW - Asia Pacific, Trafficking in Women and Prostitution in the Asia Pacific)
Ethnic-Chinese women living in Indonesia are joining mail-order-bride services as a means to leave the country. The Chinese minority has been living in fear since the riots following President Suharto’s resignation. Bobby Halim & Associates, consultants for immigration to Australia, has had its client load has jumped fivefold over the past couple of months. Other women are leaving on short-tern college course exchange programs or finding sweatshop jobs abroad. (Jesse Wong, "Ethnic-Chinese women seek to wed to flee fear, violence in Indonesia," - The Human Rights Information Network, 21 July 1998)
Particularly because of the economic crises in Asia, women in Indonesia are increasingly forced into prostitution as the only means of survival. ("Women - Last in, First Out," Associated Press, 30 April 1998)
In Indonesia the economic crisis has driven thousands of women into prostitution for economic survival. Although "streetwalkers" are prohibited in Jakarta, there is no law prohibiting the sale of sexual services. (Yogyakarta Free Children Society, Mohammad Farid, "Indonesian economic crisis boosts prostitution," Reuters, 26 July 1998)