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The 'Israeli lobby' mirage : Comments

By Colin Rubenstein, published 21/4/2006

If the "Israeli lobby" is so powerful, why does Lowenstein get published so frequently?

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IRAN SAYS, "THE MUSHROOM CLOUD IS ON ITS WAY."

The threats that Israel faces from Iran escalate daily. First, Iranian president Mahmoud Ahmadinejad boldly declares that Israel should be “wiped from the map,” then he audaciously announces that the Holocaust is a myth perpetrated by guilt-stricken Europeans. Now he is exporting that hatred globally.

Reports have surfaced that Islamic militant recruiters are enlisting homicide bombers in England because of the ease with which they can enter Israel. As many as 70 attacks have been threatened in coming days.

When faced with total annihilation of her kinsmen, Esther was challenged by Mordecai with these words: “For if you keep silence at such a time as this, relief and deliverance will rise for the Jews from another quarter, but you and your father's house will perish. And who knows whether you have not come to the kingdom for such a time as this?” (Esther 4:14)

Esther rose to the challenge, proclaimed a day of prayer and fasting, and was an instrument in God’s hands to deliver her people from destruction.

In a recent rally in New York City (yes, the same New York City attacked by terrorists on 9/11) a group calling themselves “Islamic Thinkers Society” waved banners and flags symbolizing the desire to bring the entire world under Islamic rule. Here are just a few excerpts from this chillingly radical group:

The leader of the group cries in Arabic, and those gathered respond in kind:
“With our blood and our lives we will liberate al Aqsa!”
Leader: “Israeli Zionists, what do you say? The real Holocaust is on the way. Takbeer!”
Response: “Allah Akbar!”

And another verse of this demonic chant issues this warning:

“Zionists, Zionists, you will pay! The Wrath or Allah is on its way!
Israeli Zionists you shall pay! The Wrath of Allah is on its way!
The mushroom cloud is on its way! The real Holocaust is on its way!”

This diabolical tirade ends with:

“Islam will dominate the world. Islam is the only solution!
Takbeer…Another mushroom cloud right in the middle of Israel!”
Posted by Philo, Thursday, 27 April 2006 7:00:22 AM
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If there is no pro-Israel lobby in Australia it should be created because factual anti-Semitism and anti-Jewish sentiment hardly excusable with speeches of equal attitudes towards all minorities, either Christian or non-Christian and racially various, could practically affect Australian-Israeli relations and politics towards a Jewish State.

However, Holy Book herself is to present a very example of a Jewish freedom of thinking and speaking noticed since the dawn of human history recorded:

Jewish-Iranian PM Supports Iran Nuke Program

In interview at TV channel “Al-Arabia” a member of the Iranian parliament, Mr. Maurice Matmad, an ethnic Jew, has highlighted his support to a national nuke programme “targeting peaceful goals”, informed on a local Jewry positive overwhelming commitment to nuclear activities, spoken of good relations between Iranian Jewish community (25-30 thousands people of Jewish origin live in Iran, 80 synagogues functioning), and characterised Iranian president’s anti-Holocaust declarations as “redneckness and political speculations”.
Source:
http://www.alarabiya.net/
Posted by MichaelK., Thursday, 27 April 2006 1:03:17 PM
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Yes, meredith, right for once. It was actually your cheerleader, PP, who led you astray with the word "veracity", which you ran with clueless of its meaning. Have you purchased a dictionary yet?

Now Philo, that "mushroom cloud" suggests only one thing - that you regard readers of this thread as mushrooms and would trot out any old nonsense to keep us in the dark. I find it endlessly fascinating, the way the likes of PP, meredith, Philo and (groan) Boaz come together to throw up as much of a smokescreen as possible whenever anyone (such as Mearsheimer and Walt) dares to throw some light on what's really going on in the Middle East. I admire your dedication, however I'm concerned about the toll this constant denial of reality must be having on you. To quote meredith: you guys/gals really need to "deal with it"!
Posted by Strewth, Thursday, 27 April 2006 1:57:19 PM
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New Video by Al-Qaeda Commander in Iraq Abu Mus'ab Al-Zarqawi
Special Dispatch - Iraq/ Jihad & Terrorism Studies Project April 27, 2006 No. 1149

To view this Special Dispatch in HTML, visit: http://www.memri.org/bin/opener_latest.cgi?ID=SD114906 .

On April 25, 2006, the Islamist web forum www.alsaha.com posted a video by Al-Qaeda Commander in Iraq Abu Mus'ab Al-Zarqawi. The video culminates in footage of Al-Zarqawi with masked fighters, firing an automatic weapon, and the firing of what the leader of the fighters claims are new missiles developed by "the brothers."

The following is the translation of this clip:
TO VIEW THIS CLIP, VISIT:
http://www.memritv.org/search.asp?ACT=S9&P1=1118 .

"We are Fighting in Iraq, but Our Eyes are Set Upon Jerusalem"
[Graphic of hands holding up a black banner.]
Screen: "The Shura Council of the Mujahideen in Iraq"
Abu Mus'ab Al-Zarqawi: "When the Crusader enemy entered Iraq, it intended to gain control over the [Islamic] nation, and to strengthen the state of the sons of Zion, from the Nile to the Euphrates. But Allah has given the mujahideen sons [of the nation] the strength to face the cruelest Crusader campaign, invading the lands of the Muslims. They have withstood this invasion for more than three years." [...]
"My dear nation, we in Iraq are but a stone's throw away from the place of the Prophet's ascension. We are fighting in Iraq, but our eyes are set upon Jerusalem, which will only be restored to us through the guidance of the Koran and the support of the sword. Allah's guidance and support suffice." ..............
Posted by Philo, Thursday, 27 April 2006 7:24:09 PM
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See what I mean?
Posted by Strewth, Thursday, 27 April 2006 7:32:19 PM
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Boaz-David.
One cannot go back too far because it is simply not practicable. As you say, everyone has been invaded and occupied at one point or other. But, as humanity became more enlightened the wrongs in this were recognized and more recent colonizers have been called to account as they should be. Israel is one of them. Even more so because Israel continues to colonise while maintaining a brutal and often vicious occupation.

You quote a ‘history’ of the Hebrews which is Biblical. The Bible has no legal basis. It is a collection of myth, fantasy, history, propaganda and story-telling. There is in fact little or no archeological evidence for Jerusalem as the Bible presents it. The ‘hard’ evidence is that it was probably no more than a small ‘camp.’ But, even if you believe the Bible stories they cannot be held as evidence in law.

And, while you may find it credible that a God worth believing in would ‘give’ someone else’s lands to the Hebrews, and encourage genocide against the inhabitants, most people in the world do not. Immoral, illegal and unlikely.

Interestingly, recent advances in translation of ancient Egyptian hieroglyphs show that the Torah, and Bible by extesnsion, are sourced in Egyptian religion. The Ten Commandments, word for word, and many of the parables. There you go, the ‘original’ Jewish ‘homeland’ is Egypt. Should they take that back?

And while ‘power’ may have done the talking for most of our history, in a more enlightened world we no longer believe this which is why occupation and colonization are deemed to be wrong. Unless you would have us return to more barbaric times when strength tramples justice and tyranny strangles dialogue as happens today in the Palestinian Occupied Territories.

I am not a real ‘Scot’ as the name suggests, despite having a Scottish great-grandmother, who married a Greek fisherman who ‘shortened’ his name to Ross. I also have Jewish ancestors on both sides, thankfully ‘lapsed’ which leaves me as an Australian with a great deal of time for God and none at all for religion.
Posted by rhross, Thursday, 27 April 2006 8:08:09 PM
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