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Walking the tightrope with Indonesia : Comments

By Gary Brown, published 11/4/2006

Australian actions which might fuel secessionism are always going to be resented by Indonesia.

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redneck,

thanks for ruining any credibility we collectively have, your attitude is a great help to our cause.

You are racist champ, a bigut and despite this issue, all you do is make us remember the 1% of baby boomer racists with little ability to see issues without tainted glasses.

We are not going to have a 'black state', we are not going to war to get it, and blokes like you need to feel powerful as you probably have low self esteem as you have been bullied as a kid.

Get over yourself, and change your views. from one Aussie to Another (one that is as Aussie as a pissed digger on Anzac day), you are way off the mark and not a true Aussie.

Sorry all, there are morons in every country remember we can do little about it.
Posted by Realist, Wednesday, 12 April 2006 10:50:48 AM
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Realist, I have always thought the multiculti brigade are the ones with low self esteem who need minority groups to pamper their sorrowful egos with.

Redneck merely made some conclusions based on some facts, you did nothing to counter them. You simply indulged in namecalling and hysterical emotionalism.

Interesting point Redneck, if West Papua is given autonomy from Indonesia will it just end like its 'independant' neighbours as a basketcase. It could well happen.
Posted by davo, Wednesday, 12 April 2006 11:03:32 AM
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Hey Mr Soeharto Man PTBI, did you see what your own journalists said about the Papua asylum-seekers in the April 9 issue of Tempo magazine? Seems like even your most prestigious news magazine agrees that bad stuff is still happening in the land of the Morning Star.
Posted by rogindon, Wednesday, 12 April 2006 9:14:00 PM
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@Bushbred:
Indonesia does not need a large garrison in Papua and West Irian Jaya provinces, there are only 10,000 Indonesian soldiers and police covering an area of France+Benelux, with most of the soldiers deployed along 1000 km border with failed state Papua New Guinea. Compare this with the 33,000 British soldiers required to impose British rule over an unwilling Irish Catholic population in the tiny constraints of Northern Ireland. There are even more British soldiers in Northern Ireland than in Iraq.

@Davo:
Indeedy, an independent Papuan state would end-up as a failed state like its neighbour PNG.

@Rogindon:
Hey Mr Lelucon-man, indeed there is a bad thing happening in Land of Morning Star: barbaric Papuan separatism.
Posted by Proud to be Indonesian, Wednesday, 12 April 2006 9:55:57 PM
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PTBI
I heard an interesting interview today.. (ABC) referring to the "National UN sponsored referendum" on the future of Dutch New Guinea in 69.

Apparently the only people who got to 'vote' were 1028 hand picked people.. please correct me if I'm wrong. But it sounds like the UN was just duplicitous with the Indo big wigs to suck West Papua into the Indo fold...

Jangan lupa nasihat yang diberikan mengenai cara mengucap ya... masih lagi sikapmu seperti.. keras lah. Lembutkanlah diri mu sikit ok ?
Perkataan mu bagaikan 'batu yang dibuangkan' .. bukan macam orang dewasa yang berbual
Posted by BOAZ_David, Thursday, 13 April 2006 12:51:04 AM
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Gary Brown , you say, Australia also acquiesced in Jakarta’s rape of East Timor. Isn’t it like 2 dogs fighting over the ‘bone?’ Since Australia rescued poor East Timor, did they not take possession of a wide area of Ocean where minerals are found, within in East Timor’s boundaries, and then set about piping these to Australia, and being generous, gave East Timor a small percentage of the royalties, through sudden pangs of conscience. I could be wrong. Please help me out here.
Posted by ELIDA, Thursday, 13 April 2006 7:43:10 AM
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