FFS,

Galty - Australia is a secular state with secular laws. We have the freedom to openly state that the Koran was changed after the event to remove references to the Banat Allah - the daughters of the the Muslim God. Read OUR Consitition. Section 116. http://www.aph.gov.au/senate/general/constitution/chapter5.htm

"Near it is the Garden of Abode. Behold, the Lote-tree was shrouded (in mystery unspeakable!) (His) sight never swerved, nor did it go wrong! For truly did he see, of the Signs of his Lord, the Greatest! Have ye seen Lat. and 'Uzza, And another, the third (goddess), Manat?

**These are the exalted cranes (intermediaries) Whose intercession is to be hoped for.**

What! for you the male sex, and for Him, the female? Behold, such would be indeed a division most unfair!" (an-Najm 53:19-22)

Praise be to Allah's daughters Manat, el-Lat and el-Uzza!!

Are you offended? Tough. How does Sharia handle the truth? Fatwa!

Again, if you don't like my freedom to quote the unchanged version of the Koran, go to a county that doesn't respect my freedom. Bugger off to a country more accepting of your sharia law.

Kenny,
You are right when you say that any changes in the law will have to have a broad moral base not narrowed by religious bigotry.
Unfortunately it wont happen like that, and isnt doing so. It will be by osmosis, incrementalism, insiduousness. Slowly and slowly they will force change and concessions out of us, as they are doing. Until one day it will all be too late.
Dont believe me, then for starters, and there is plenty more to prove the point,just read the Middle East Quarterly paper I referenced above ( www.meforum.org/article/920)

"...riot officers could be deployed at Canterbury Bulldogs games to target brawling fans, under a plan being canvassed by the NSW Police Commissioner."

"Witnesses described a ferocious attack by up to eight young Middle Eastern men wearing Bulldogs jerseys on three older Wests Tigers fans outside Telstra Stadium on Friday night after a game. Police made only one arrest during the game, but spectators recalled seeing two brawls in the stands, one of which they said involved up to 50 people."

It is Canterbury Bulldogs fans who are being targeted by the NSW Police Commissioner, I suppose he is racist to target the Middle Eastern Bulldogs fans, and clearly Muslim Lebanese, who were caught on camera assaulting other fans in the stadium who Australia saw on the nightly news and in the Telegraph the next day.

Out of all the other teams in the NRL it is the Bulldogs who are being targeted with threats of riot police being deployed at games because of violent Middle Eastern fans caught on camera.

Why is it that Middle Eastern fans are violent at NRL games? Surely some of the most brutal violence at games is whiteanglos at Engish football games, but that culture hasn't come up in Australia's NRL and perhaps the Lebanese Muslims are just filling the void of a violent football culture for Australia.

Muslims don't attack Muslims at football games and the violent assaults caught on camera confirm this, inshallah. It is Middle Eastern mean attacking whiteanglo men. Aussies are too passive and deserve to be targeted. stand up for yourselves.

We needn't be afraid of legal improvements. Society changes so we need new legal tools and interpretations for new situations in our lives. But we can be legitimately concerned by any suggestions out of nowhere that attempt to introduce a whole new and un-related body of law.

Our law's my personal weapon in the face of society's glare. I look the judge in the eye with every legal right of my unknown neighbour in the next seat and every right as an Australian, not as a woman or as a man and certainly not as a member of a religion.

What qualifications does sharia have as law?
What is the need for it?
Why 'sharia' and not another 'law' from somewhere else?
What improvements will sharia bring?
If there's a gap in law, shouldn't we fix that and avoid introducing a whole other species of law?
Who exactly is asking for sharia?
What are their vested interests?
What are the social implications?
What is the jurisdiction for sharia?
If this 'law' is only for certain Australians, how is it legitimate?
What is sharia's track record to date?

Afghanistan: A man facing execution for converting from islam to Christianity.

[Christianity: is "Evil"... well, yes, according to an Australian muslim cleric on Radio national this very morning discussing something else.]

Somalia: African country where (historically naked) African sporting women are damned as prostitutes by non-African religious law.

Pakistan: 80% of women in jail are there because of sharia hudood law.

[Women: Not legally equal today and still dressed by their religion]

For me, sharia is a square peg in a round hole in Australia.

I think social paranoia arises from dogmatic religious beliefs which in turn makes for bad law; that sick societies are created by artificial segregation of men and women and/or sections of the Australian community, and that clerics are unfit and unqualified to make law.

http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/default.asp?page=2006\03\22\story_22-3-2006_pg4_17
http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/default.asp?page=2006\03\20\story_20-3-2006_pg7_13
http://www.iht.com/articles/2006/03/20/news/togs.php

"Do Muslims in the West want Sharia law? It would seem that some do. A recent poll in Britain found that four out of ten Muslims supported the introduction of Sharia law"

Just thought I would correct an obvious typo... of course you probably meant to say that Muslims don't want Sharia law because 60% of respondents did not support such an idea. Just helping out...

Of this particular poll, how many respondents were women? I would probably hazard a guess at about six out of ten.

Cheers

Well you must be really rattled guys, keep it up.
I think I have found the true points to wiggle you.

As per Narccisst, you are actually damn founded by the facts on your face, I know you've failed on many occassions and that keeps rattling you. I laugh at it

Ciao
Galty