Husmussen

Thank you for your clarification post.

I did read your previous post twice before I posted. I have since re-read it, and now your second post - which is a bit clearer.

I still cannot get over the fact that you think that it is more-or-less OK that a few elderly folk are sexually assaulted, or otherwise physically abused.

There are no comparisons for abuse or neglect - as there are no comparisons between apples and orranges. Abuse and neglect are equally evil. Abuse cam lead to neglect. Neglect can lead to abuse.

Bathing people before 10am has been old hat for at least the last 20 years. It is totally outside of national aged care policies and procedures and accreditation. As an RN you have the power to change that in the institution for which you work. If you do not change that cruel scenario, as I see it, you are condoning such regimen and inhumane treatment.

As an RN you have the power to educate and change people's attitudes, vis a vis: personal care assistants. You have the power to insist on appropriate communication with and about elderly people.

Clearly, I have insulted you, and for that I apologise. Perhaps when you re-read your post, you may understand why I responded in such an angry manner.

Clearly, we both care about elderly people.
Cheers
Kay

I was a PCA for a nursing agency in MIssoula, Montana. The perception that PCA's are poorly trained is accurate in my case. Yes my heart was in the right place. Yes I did seek more training. I remember an elderly woman who came from Florida out of a rehabilitation facility. She had a bed sore on her tailbone that went right to the spinal column. It was more than tragic. I remember the smell reminded me of a horse hoof with thrush.( I was a horseshoer for a few years until my back gave out. ) She died very soon. Our job was to make her as comfortable as possible. My point is this, God help any of us when we get old or in need of help. And I'm not a God lover.

Hmmm why stick to the issue of just PATIENTS who are being abused?? I was assaulted and called a code black.. Police took the man away but the nursing home blamed and dismsissed me and has done to other students/workers who reported assualt.. The DON at Jindalee nursing home even ripped the incident report up in front of a Nurse and fired them.
Jindalee nursing home needs to be publicly shamed and humiliated.. allowing violence against Nurses and firing them for doing the right thing.. I SHOULD POST MY INCIDENT REPORT AGAIN to the stories segment of this website...I now have support from others who had this happen to them.
Also allowing violent male patients to put other residents at risk.
Shame on you JINDALEE of Narrabundah ACT...
Hope ACA turns up for you to slam the doors on them proving you have so much to 'cover up'..

Dear Nononsense,
if what you are saying about being assaulted is true there are some avenues open to you to address this matter. I am assuming from your post that the person who assaulted you was a resident. There are a number of laws which relate to assault both criminal and civil as well as OH&S laws. It is not true that because the assault happened in a nursing home then the Nursing Home is the only organisation which can take care of it. You can report the incident to the police. If the Nursing home won't address it I think you should do that. Assault is a crime. If the resident was not incontraol of what he was doing then the Nursing Home is responsible. I suggest that you seek legal advice. If you are a nurse, you can talk to your Union who may be able to supply free legal advice. If you are a student, there may be free legal advice at your University but also make sure that you University Supervisor knows what happened.

As you know, what you have outlined is very serious. You do have rights. By getting help and prosecuting if neccessary you will help to stop this from happening again. This is important not only for other staff and students but for the residents too.
Bub