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Maureen Dowd's 'Are men necessary?' - dumb and dumber : Comments

By Jennifer Sinclair, published 10/2/2006

Maureen Dowd has oversimplified feminism in her new book 'Are men necessary?'.

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I work at a health resort frequented by women of Maureen's age and younger, often they have the same attitude. Who would want to grow old with them.

My mother was a feminist, from 3 boys she got one granchild, her wish was unintentionally fufilled. She now agrees that it was folly, she was closely associated with one of the most active aussie feminists of the late 70's and early 80's... Pearlie Brown.

It's a destructive ideaology, it will fully support misogynistic cultures as long as they're against the 'white patriarchy'.
I've seen it in action while working for the public service.

Back to the point, I love a woman with a balanced and lively mind and don't really care what nature has given her as long as she takes steps to look after herself. Many women at the health resort blame their obesity and mental state on someone else, many are comtemparies of Dowd and their indoctrination is clear to see.
Posted by CARNIFEX, Saturday, 11 February 2006 1:54:27 AM
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This article (as well as a discussion I had a couple of nights ago)got me thinking about my experiences of online dating and the kind of profiles I've been reading.

Firstly not a lot of women advertising themselves as "dumb and busty" in the profiles I've seen but then I have not put those items in my search criteria. The biggest differentiator I have seen seems to between those whose profiles are predominately about the manner they wish to be kept in vs those who whose profiles are about what they do. The first crowd seem to be advertising for a new keeper, the others for a partner, an equal. The first crowd seem to see themselves as deserving of the best and demanding the best in their men (wealthy, toned etc) while the others are more likely to be focused on lifes journey and the character of the person they want to spend it with.

The market you shop in may have some impact on the product available, if Dowd and others keep finding guys who focus on "dumb and busty" maybe its because they are too focussed on "rich and groomed" or similar. I've not spent any time reading mens profiles so I can't comment on how they relate to this topic.

R0bert
Posted by R0bert, Saturday, 11 February 2006 12:13:17 PM
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Ladies, you think life is getting “complex”?

Maybe that is because the hurly and burly exchanges in the world of men, which in the name of equality, the jugg holders have demanded participation in, is really an arena well beyond the capacities of those, who were until recently, cloistered alongside the kitchen sink.

The whole idea that women do not need men is a crock.
It is like suggesting men do not need women.

We might desire women, but do we need them?

We do not need wives that is a certainty.

Just as we do not need a car when we can use a taxi.

Is it better to be seen with an underpowered early model family sedan, in need of a service and a ring change, or a brand spanking new limo fitter with all the latest gadgets, gizmos and suspension which does not squeak when bumped up and down?

As divorce has taught us, the cost of owning the sedan can be a lot higher than the cost of renting the limo for the short periods of time we actually “want” them. And next time we have the “want” we can choose from the “fleet” which limo we will ride in.

(now that has evened up the playing field a little with the feminists)

Men and women have one quality in common, regardless of whether they are from Venus or Mars. The are individuals with some cognitive capability (in varying degrees).

As such the reality is we individuals end up with the relationships we are prepared either to tolerate or to work upon, in other words what we deserve.

The price of strident feminism is strident misogyny.

Want to die a justified misogynist? Old, cold and alone, then go for it.

Want to die a justified feminist? Old, cold and alone, then go for it.

For myself, I will be living this life with my partner and enjoying the relationship we have and sharing what only heterosexual couples can share.

Robert, internet dating is great but read between the lines of the profiles.
Posted by Col Rouge, Sunday, 12 February 2006 7:10:04 AM
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Maybe it was just the great weekend I had away that has addled by brain, but Jennifer's article seemed to go nowhere and talk about a book that seemed to be based on a view from nowhere.
Posted by Coraliz, Sunday, 12 February 2006 2:46:24 PM
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Maureen Dowd is a spoof writer. It seems a person needs simply a profile, a forum and a contentious topic to be taken seriously. The whole circus over this book reminds me of "being there".
Posted by bennie, Sunday, 12 February 2006 3:30:16 PM
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Bennie - indeed Margaret is a satirist and not to be taken too seriously.

Coraliz - agree Jennifer Sinclair could've done us all a favour and refrained from this tripe.

R0bert - once again thoughtful comments - but is internet dating the way to go? Finding people with the same interests? - do the things you are interested in. Bush walking, hang gliding whatever - at least you'll have fun. I find the concept of dating programs very meat marketish - too many dangers to dodge, would rather fly a kite.

Col Rouge - and I don't need a husband - nyah nyah nyah

But seriously Col & R0bert I believe that gold diggers and misogynists deserve each other and (although not religious) hope that there is a circle in hell reserved for these tragics.
Posted by Scout, Monday, 13 February 2006 8:39:06 AM
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