Salam

I previously sent you a post about your article. It has disappeared?

Anyway, the essence for me is: you do not seem concerned about Aussie (or any other) freedom of speech or expression; you are overly concerned about a few poorly designed cartoons (Jesus Christ and Mohammed are probably killing [joke] themselves laughing); and, worst of all, you appear to have no concern about Muslim perpetrators, their violent actions, and the murders they have committed in their so-called (and disgusting) defence of your religion.

BOAZ_David made a very important point in his first post. Most times that he (as a devout, and dare I say "demanding" Christian)posts, he usually receives heaps of insults. He does not become hystrionic. On the contrary, he just cops it on the chin. And he often seems to have a good laugh. He doesn't throw metaphoric bombs. He just says his stuff in an honest way (even though I rarely share his views).

Get a life Salam. You are in Australia.

I saw the cartoon of Mohammed. Cracked me up. In psychiatry, there is an unconscious defence mechanism called projection. Suggest that you take a look.

Cheers
Kay

Salam, I think you really need to do some navel gazing as to why it is that various people of various religions have settled in Australia, few have a problem, yet Islam is surrounded with problems and not far from violence. It seems to me that wherever Islam goes, there are problems and violence. Think about it.

In the last few days 1000 Muslims drowned, leaving Saudi Arabia.
There were not enough lifeboats, people were denied lifejackets.
Very little has been said, cartoons are more important it seems.
Are those your priorities? Does the thought of 1000 people drowning because nobody cared, not offend you? Do a few cartoons really matter in this context?

Remember one thing. In most countries, as the Muslim population grows, so does the political influence of that population. Any religion involved in politics will be absolutaly ripped to pieces, with everything about that relgion open to question and analysis.

Politics is open slather and if religion gets involved in politics, its open slather too. To be frank, if you find some cartoons offensive now, how are you going to handle every little detail about your religion questioned and open to scrutiny and analysis, without being deeply offended?

There was an interesting interview on SBS tonight, where a Middle Eastern scholar noted that many Muslims now live in the West, but are not yet of the West. Being offended, but also being able to say what you think, which will surely be offensive to somebody, somewhere, is just part of the course.

Personally I find the thought of 1000 people drowning through neglect, because nobody cared, far more offensive then some drawings.

Martin Ibn Warriq,

Words?

Fear?

Thats a larf.

Yabby

Thank you very much for your post. I found it very insightful. You actually made me feel a bit guilty.

Even though my husband and I have discussed the drownings and felt saddend, we had not realised that most people were of Muslim faith.

Yes, that does place a different thrust on Salam's argument re catoons. Where are her priorities?

Cheers
Kay

Yabby asks "Does the thought of 1000 people drowning because nobody cared, not offend you?"

This is ridiculous question to pose to Salam. Of course she would have been offended and I'm sure she would have been privy to much more intimate information about this tradgedy than many here in this forum.

Much of the anger amongst Muslims is predictable and in fact rather contrived.

When the cartoons was published a few months ago, no one seems to know or care. When someone stirred up a controversy, suddenly it was found this great sense of indignation and Muslims are falling over each other to make their feelings known.

They have no choice (freedom) in any case. ANY Muslim is bound to tell you the same 'feeling of indignation'. Imagine if there exists one maverick Muslim who dares to publicly pronounced that he/she does not care if Muhammed/Allah is caricatured, I can assure you of one definite outcome - that courageous Muslim will soon be DEAD MEAT, nicely chopped up by some Islamist morality squad!

Much like the Communists falling over each other to sing praises of Chairman Mao during China cultural revolution times, the Muslims are doing the same with their one-tract mind.

Subtlely this brings out the danger facing western democracy:-
1. We cannot and must not trust a Muslim, NOT A SINGLE ONE.
When crunch time comes, when push comes to shove, even the most moderate Muslims will be on the side of the radical. Although on the surface they are against extremists radicals, in reality they also form part of the culture, fermenting and indirectly facilitating the existence of radicalism. That's partly why we very rarely hear Muslims criticising their kind.

2. Unlike communism, which comes and goes, Islam will stay and given that Muslims claim authority from godhead, it means perpetual troubles and never ending threats.

A lot of gullible and naive people talks about mutual respect, understanding and so on... Let me say this LOUD and CLEAR - There is NO solution to the troubles from Muslims...NAY...NONE.

Except for this - The Islam religion must be exposed and discredited for what it is... a hoax... something Muhammed schemed up primarily to fight the Jews and Christians. Something Muhammed did not dreamt would bondage the mind of one-fifth of the world population.

And this is the only hope for humanity and civilisation !!