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Sentencing our youth versus rehabilitation : Comments

By Sebastian De Brennan, published 8/2/2006

Sebastian De Brennan reflects on a road tragedy and a girl’s sentence.

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Poor young Sebastian lives in la la land, as does those that support not jailing this woman. Lets not forget that a life was snuffed out by this rich moron, lets not forget that she couldn't drive, but still exceeded the Limits. Lets not forget the injuries, costs to other, society and families of the deceased and injured, no poor young thing.

In the past jail was used as a form of retribution, but now with our intelligence, it can be used as a time of learning, reflection and education. Rehabilitation, what a joke, you can't rehabilitate someone without showing them a glimpse of the consequences for them, if they continue with their disregard for the law and the safety of others.

If you are convicted for a crime, then you should go to jail even if it is just for a week or month. When you kill someone because you are stupid, then you should go to jail no matter what. If you are under the influence of any drug and kill someone, then you should go for a longer time rather than be given sympathy because you didn't have full control.

Jail gives you time to reflect, it gives you time to see where you are at, it gives you time to understand that your actions aren't acceptable to society. It also gives you time to see how your life will be if you continue on your present path. Sure lots don't learn that, but they lack intellect, if you are intelligent you use the time to improve yourself.

You can jail someone without torturing them or harming them. If everyone knew that they would go to jail if they injure or kill because they are to stupid to follow the law. Then we would see less stupidity from people.

There is a huge bias in trhe system between the haves and have not's. Ask any lawyer and they will tell you that. If you have money you get what you want in the end. Lock her up, I bet she doesn't do it again then.
Posted by The alchemist, Wednesday, 8 February 2006 1:34:08 PM
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If it was up to me, and I know that it isn't, this young woman, of an age to vote, join the armed forces, sign contracts, get married and the like, would have been held to the same level of accountability as anyone over the age of 18 who had killed and maimed whilst committing an illegal act.

Let there be no doubt, by the speed that she was doing she was committing an illegal act, not just a reckless or dangerous one. I wonder what the legal outcome would have been if this had been playing around with a gun, illegally, and someone had been killed and others injured? A car can be just as deadly as a gun if misused.

Mind you, I believe that someone should get two months in gaol just for going over the speed limit by that much, let alone for killing someone in the process.
Posted by Hamlet, Wednesday, 8 February 2006 3:18:57 PM
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Which raises the question:

This young woman may not have been 18 at the time of her crime - after all, she was in the Children's Court.

But

We don't let people under 18 run around with guns unsupervised. We restrict their activities until they are of a maturity to understand the consequences of their actions.

So, if she is unable to understand the consequences of her actions she should not have been permitted to carry out an action that she didn't understand. That is, if she didn't understand that the misuse of a motor vehicle can kill she should not be allowed to drive until she does understand.

If her level of maturity was such that she could demonstrably understand the consequences of her actions, then she should be treated the same as any adult who understands the consequences.

Young people cannot have it both ways.
Posted by Hamlet, Wednesday, 8 February 2006 4:01:57 PM
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The Alchemist has pretty much said it all.

Any possibility that I MIGHT (and I stress the 'might') have favoured rehabilitaion over prison went strait out the window when I read that she got off with a slap on the wrist simply because she was rich.

Society favours those who have enough money to not need favouring. Just like our government.

Lock her up. Having money doesn't give you the key to do whatever you want and it's about time the legal system reflected this.
Posted by Mr Man, Wednesday, 8 February 2006 5:19:36 PM
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Regardless of whether the teenager has wealthy parents or not, an appropriate sentence would be community work with disabled people, such as those who have been disabled by car accidents.

Prison is hardly a solution and will not teach the young offender anythng about the consequences of their driving. In the case outlined by Sebastian it would appear that the accident was just that and not a result of negligence.
Posted by Scout, Thursday, 9 February 2006 10:15:28 AM
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Scout with respect, speeding is negligent, so is driving a car in a city at that speed, whilst only holding your licence for very short while and no experience.

“Prison is hardly a solution and will not teach the young offender anything about the consequences of their driving. In the case outlined by Sebastian it would appear that the accident was just that and not a result of negligence.”

Do you have any idea of what prison is like, nor how it can help those that only think of themselves and not the consequences. An appropriate sentence would be jail for at least a year, then community work with the disabled and in trauma clinics for another two years, as well as supporting the families who are the real victims. That would give her time to reflect her position and attitude to life. Jail today, except for intractables, isn't that hard. All you lose is your freedom, you can work, study, read, watch TV, get fit, experience people from varied lifestyles and economic circumstances. Many sensible people who have erred, come out with a very different and positive outlook and approach to life.

Irrelevant to her social or economic status, jail for killing someone is a must, or we will have more of the growing situation of, commit a crime, and PC nutters goes poor soul, tut tut naughty naughty you victim you. What about the poor dead person and her family,

Then again, you appear to feel that it's the perpetrator that is the victim. No wonder our society's in such a ridiculous state.

Do you have any experience in these matter, ever been to jail, or counseled those in jail, or those that have escaped jail and what their attitude is. Check court records and see how many that have been given lip service punishments and the amount of times they re- offend. These figures will show you that you live in la la land with respect to this thread.

What's one year, when you've taken 50 from someone else.
Posted by The alchemist, Thursday, 9 February 2006 10:55:40 AM
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