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By Dirk Moses, published 11/1/2006Dirk Moses argues the media commentary on the Cronulla riots has been disappointing and failed to offer any new perspectives.
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It is commendable that you've spent some time informing yourself and making a case. I don't think you've exhausted the similarities and differences between the Imperial Russian and Cronulla pogrom, but I have the feeling that nothing will dissuade you from your firm belief about the the absence of racism in Australia (except among Lebanese, who are racist against 'us').
You continue to miss the point I have been making about the nation and racism. It is that ALL nations and ethnicities are inherently racist. To belong to an ingroup means excluing the outgroup. Minorities are subject to this sociological fact as well. Since plainly you are now doing some reading rather than relying on your trucky mates for insights, why don't you obtain the book I mentioned at the outside, _The Ethnic Origin of Nations_ by Anthony Smith?
While there has been an improvement in your etiquette since your first posting, the patent insincerity of your withdrawal of some spiteful comments is highlighted by the childish quip about my credentials. Keith, mate, are you really in a position to question anyone's intellectual or educational credentials? As a matter of course, one ought not to do so at all, with anyone. It's the quality of the arguments that count. They may be made with force -- let us not have thin skins -- but omit the abuse and aspersions. They only detract from what you are saying.
That's it for me. Today the first years enrolled in their courses. Uni starts soon, I have to prepare. May the spirit of civil debate permeate this site.