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Are Australian women so ill-informed? : Comments

By Tania Ewing, published 6/1/2006

Tania Ewing challenges Renate Klein's belief that RU486, used for non-surgical abortion, is dangerous.

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"I would like to know when the proper time and situation for sexual intercourse and where this determination comes from"

Easy, any time is sexual intercourse time.I prefer it in the morning myself to greet the new day, but in the evening will do just fine.Lunch time for a quikie.

Situation. I find it better when the kids are out, loud music puts my trouble and strife right off.Also she is a bit reluctant these days at the drive in,her feet get caught in everything.The beach is not much good anymore, when you start to get a bit old sand gets into all the wrinkles.I have done it whilst she is doing the dishes ,but we break so much crockery it was becoming expensive.

My wife usualy determines all of the above,however I do have some input(so to speak)if she is a bit tired.Its my job to keep her awake.
Posted by PHILB, Monday, 9 January 2006 3:26:39 AM
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Reason,

"I would like to know when the ‘proper time and situation’ for sexual intercourse is and from where this determination comes? "

Easy - when people understand the consequences of unprotected sex or sex with condoms only (which can break), or sex using only the pill (with its very small but real chance of not working) etc etc ...

Education is the key there. Do not ban the abortion drug if it is safe but lets not kid ourselves - Except in the case of rape, incest or genuine medical complications a lot of abortions can be avoided. But I am realist to understand that some things as the unrestrained pursuit of pleasure means people can avoid the hard questions of themselves. That is human nature? (Hey I like it too)
Posted by The Big Fish, Monday, 9 January 2006 8:33:33 AM
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This drug would not be even needed if only women, who GENUINELY do not want to get pregant, took the proper precautions.
If they had to pay the full costs of an abortion, rather than rely on Medicare, again this drug wouldn't be needed!
Posted by faith, Monday, 9 January 2006 5:52:41 PM
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" thus leading to intercourse by those who would be unable to bear children. That shows our society's disrespect for life - trying to divide life from sex - as we slump into a permissive, individualistic bind... we create life and then destroy it to suit our petty pleaures and persuasions."

Now now DF, thats following that weird Catholic dogma, which thinks
sex is somehow evil. Why should people who are unable to have children not have sex? Sex only for the rich who can afford kids?
Get real!

Perhaps the Church should have a good look at nature. Sex is natural
normal, healthy and fun. Trying to deny all that doesent even work for Catholic priests, look how many are caught with their proverbial
pants down and thats just those caught.

Most women can create about 400 human organisms in their lifetimes if they wish, reality is not all can survive. Read Origin of Species, it makes more sense then Catholic dogma.

If the Catholic Church really cared so much about life, they could sell their billions of $ of assets and feed the starving babies, rather then preach the evils of the condom
Posted by Yabby, Monday, 9 January 2006 6:57:46 PM
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Kalweb

I think that you need to talk with your 14 y/o niece, and her father for that matter. There are plenty of ways to avoid unwanted pregnancy.
One very effective method is to go on the contraceptive pill. However this option is not for everybody. It can have some serious side effects, such as depression and mood swings.
Another is to combine condoms with the rhythm method. Realistically there are only 30 days in a year that a woman can fall pregnant.
You could find out this information and have a talk with you niece.
Then again, there is the far more troubling reality of the number of young girls who actually go out and get them selves pregnant on purpose. I have known a couple of girls (now mothers), who’s mothers actually told them that the best way to keep a guy is to get pregnant!
My mother put me right off having kids at a young age, (she had my sister when she was 17).
Mums words of wisdom were “If you have kids young, b4 you have a stable income, you will always be poor!” I think that it was good advice, you should tell your niece something like that, and how ugly stretch marks are!

As for the debate on the RU 486 pill. I think it is a good idea. If I wanted to have an abortion, I would rater take a pill, then endure some invasive procedure. I’m sure the girls would go through adequate counseling and explore all their options, b4 being given the pill.
I don’t think it will encourage more abortions, it will only give those seeking one, more choices.
I think it is absolutely ridiculous to think that this pill would cause the extermination of the human race..that's crazy! There are still plenty of couples out there who want to have children. The environment is already struggling to cope with the overpopulation of the world
Posted by Celene, Monday, 9 January 2006 8:04:00 PM
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As for Howard’s Baby bonus. It is just a ploy to help ease the approaching crisis of an ageing workforce heading for retirement. Basically there won’t be enough people working in Australia to support the oldies pensions. He should have thought about this years ago. But this problem too can be fixed, by allowing more immigrant workers into the country. But instead it does seem to be encouraging more poor young single girls to get pregnant, only making the problem worse.
Posted by Celene, Monday, 9 January 2006 8:05:28 PM
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