Thanks Tania, I investigated Renate Klein's background as a result of her claims about RU486. I, too, find Renate's credibility questionable given the plethora of information and 30 years of use of the drug in many countries throughout the world.

Renate must indeed view Australian women as incapable of self-determination, given her opposition to RU486, in the face of overwhelming success in many other countries.

My investigation has simply confirmed the points you make in your article, Tania. Therefore, I must question Renate's agenda here. Clearly women require credible information and as many options as possible regarding their fertility.

I would ask that Renate qualify her POV in the light of evidence that does not support her claims. What is she really trying to prove here?

Everyone is entitled to their opinions and everything is up for debate.

I must caution those who believe that all women are intelligent enough to make an informed option regarding termination of a pregnancy, when a large proportion of those are as young as 14 years old.

I have supported my female gender in their quest for choice but I am fast realising that we are taking away opportunities and a chance for new-life.

Our Western societies have much choice available with controlling fertilisation and full term birth, that this may be lead to our ultimate minoritising and eventual extinction.

So do we have too much choice?

I find it ridiculous that Tony Abbott even shares the floor and debate on this subject when it is obvious that his past mistakes have influenced his decision on Abortion.

He wasn't a particularly smart cookie when the love child that he thought was his, turned out to be another mans.

Guess he should have worn a condom, then he would have been sure.

re Suebdooto or similar Are you suggesting that we encourage 14 year olds to go ahead with bringing kids into this world!? Are you totally crazy. A 14 year old child who finds herself in that postion certainly needs many things least of all some more strict mangement. However its still a child at 14. Do you even know! what you are saying. Any 14 year old girl should by law be terminated. Its criminal to except a child to expereince child birth .I suppose you also support this 3 grand grant that the goverment brought in which encourages young poor single girls to have a child. No wonder the other countries look at us in discust at our unmarried child rate. I suppose you also think we the tax paying should pay for its keep until 18 as well.You are not born until u are born Sue. hello when did you say your birthday was.Well thats when you are born at any rate. Before that it is completly up to tne women what to do with not only her body but her life. Especially at 14 kids need forward thinking advise not some rat bag going on about pro life.

Wendy

I am terrified for my niece who is about to reach 14 years. She has already had intercourse.

My brother, a widow by suicide (when the girls were 18 months and 5 months)cannot handle reality. "It's just a one off. She won't do it again". He has his head in the sand. She is also smoking and drinking alcohol.

The writing is on the wall. She will no doubt get pregnant - provided that her fertility organs have normal functioning.

My brother is not addressing any issues.

It is sickening and it is sad.

My niece has myriad problems. If she gets pregnant, I will despair.

I am not usually pro-abortion - but in this case -.

Thank you
Kay

That we have so many abortions is caused by our society's inability to condemn sexual intercourse outside of proper times and situations, thus leading to intercourse by those who would be unable to bear children. That shows our society's disrespect for life - trying to divide life from sex - as we slump into a permissive, individualistic bind... we create life and then destroy it to suit our petty pleaures and persuasions.

That's what sex removed from the sphere of procreation is considered to be deviant by all sorts of people, such as Freud, the champion of many such promoters of a permissive sexual ethic. Abortion is an unsuprising consequence of such a lack of ethic.

Many complain about the lack of maternity leave or equal wages as causing abortion. Across countries with such conditions, abortions still occur, especially amongst younger women. Who are we kidding? This brinkmanship - "we'll kill our kids if you don't pay us cash after giving birth" - is a ruse, and the true problem is a society which places money, work and prosperity over life itself. In such a culture, life will not win out.

RU-486 will give choice, but will also entrench a culture of individualism towards life, rather than allowing any proper regulation with mandated counselling for women in this situation. The disempowering of society on issues like abortion is obviously an aim of many feminist groups, and all it would do is entrench our terrible status quo.

I have trouble being optimistic. This is another nail in the coffin of a traditional sexual ethic, and ethic which would be the best way to lower abortions and thus lower the pain associated with it.

I would like to know when the ‘proper time and situation’ for sexual intercourse is and from where this determination comes?