First lets get our facts straight this recent event that sparked everything off was between three lifeguards & four lebs.
Refer: http://dailytelegraph.news.com.au/story/0,20281,17492835-5001021,00.html
Sounds like nearly a fair fight? Doesn’t sound like Lebanese gangs roaming the beach front to me.

How many times have you heard on the news two men (or three men, the number doesn’t matter) of caucasiun appearance were arrested today for assaulting a man (ie drunken brawl) in a pub.

What? This doesn’t happen? It does and probably most weekends in Sydney and more than once. But it doesn’t make great headlines.

There is just as much violence and pack mentality in the “white Australian” male population as in any other racial group. (Don’t belive me? Go to some bars & clubs in the West like in Parramatta, Blacktown, Campbelltown, Liverpool etc. See where the Police cars are on a Friday or Saturday night.) I’m picking on those areas in some anti-anglo-westie-Australian way it could be Eastwood, Ryde, Mosmon or even Bondi. Mind you it could even be a fight at a football game between Serbian & Croatian fans.

I think that the violence is blown all out of proportion. I’m not condoning, being apologetic or approving of it. It’s just what happens!

So what can we do about it? We can focus on a simple assault on three iconic youths, and stew, bitch & moan about Lebanese gangs on talkback radio for a week get a couple of thousand pissed Aussie cheering Aussie, Aussie…
No wait we tried that.

No let’s put things in perspective for a moment. Say that assault took about 2-3 minutes to occur, in that time 12-15 children died from not enough food, clean water or malaria somewhere in the world. What is of more concern. We live in country with good education, healthcare etc. Lets focus on the real moral issues in our lives or in the world. Let the police & courts deal with the stupid violence.

As a measure for every news story you read hear or see every 10 seconds a child dies and we CAN stop it.

Sydney -Sergi

'First lets get our facts straight this recent event that sparked everything off was between three lifeguards & four lebs.
Refer: http://dailytelegraph.news.com.au/story/0,20281,17492835-5001021,00.html
Sounds like nearly a fair fight? Doesn’t sound like Lebanese gangs roaming the beach front to me.'

Well yeah from what you say it probably was a fair fight... but you only quoted what suited you.
Here is that report you quoted...but I'll include the parts you didn't.

'The Middle Eastern youths allegedly told the lifesavers to get off the beach and that they "owned" the beach.
The lifesavers allegedly responded by telling the youths that if they went in the surf, they would need rescuing because they could not swim.
Strong coarse language was allegedly used by both groups. The taunt about swimming turned the aggression physical, with the four youths bashing the lifesavers and another eight to 10 Middle Eastern males joining them, police will allege.'

Now was that 4 or 12 or13 or 14 Middle Eastern males? For sure that's a fair fight.

Why haven't the police arrested more than one 18 year old?

'he was charged with assault occassioning actual bodily harm in company and affray.'

You should also check the meaning of the police terms.
'assault occasioning actual bodily harm in company' and 'affray'.

Oh and the clincher in the report you also overlooked...

'A lifeguards on patrol at the time of the attack told The Daily Telegraph yesterday a colleague had just finished patrol and was leaving the beach when he was allegedly confronted and abused by one of the men.
"There was some pushing and shoving and then another bloke ran up from behind and king hit him and then he was on the ground. That's when I ran up to help," he said. "They punched me and kept fighting."'

Yep your idea of fairnesss seems to be the same as the cowards who perpretrated the assault in the first place.

Why did you feel the need to excuse and lessen the cowardliness of the actions of those violent Lebanese Muslim youths?

That really buggars me.

Individuals can 'flourish' irrespective of race and/or religion on if the following are true:

1/ The 'races' are not approximately equal numbers
2/ The religions are not fundamentally hostile to the values of the other.
3/ The Minority are not discovered to be persuing political,economic and social agendas which are in direct conflict with the values, laws and culture of the majority.

As long as these things exist, everything is fine.

Sergie, your name should be an object lesson in itself.
I (a white Anglo) will employ an Italian concreter to pour a slab. (a non racist action) but that concreter, will employ his Italian network of

-Bobcat/Tipper driver
-Laborers 3 of 4 were Italian, one was anglo.
-Concrete supplier

Which is a racist act.

Now just imagine if Italians were 50% of the Australian population.
There would be a polarization of particular trades along ethnic lines.
"Control" of industries has always been the persuit of humanity, 'guilds, associations etc'

Now, it doesn't particularly bother me, because we are social creatures and tend to follow the lines of most familiarity and trust and Italians are at most 900,000 in Australia.

But maybe next time....... I'll specifically look for a concreter who will not disadvantage my own race by almost totally excluding my race from the project ? And lets be totally clear here, he DID make 'racial' decisions on who he employed and subcontracted to.

So, it is anecdotally true, and in terms of social and tribal practice and research that people follow ethnic/religous lines in their economic and social interaction.

So, the best solution (sorry to all white supremacists here :) is to INTERMARRY and ASSIMILATE. That is the ONLY 'environment' where there will be no racial/religious overtones to our activities.... ?

Ooops... wait... that didn't work for the part chinese from Cambodia/Laos and Vietnam...... anybody with any chinese blood in Vietnam was persecuted because of the Chinese border incursions and was seen to be patriotically suspect.... hmmmmm

Part I

"Racism can only be defeated if we understand its root cause"

"This occurred, supposedly, against a backdrop of other incidents of violence by people of Arabic appearance. While we should be perturbed that people in our community engage in violent acts, we should not allow the anxiety stemming from this to fuel erroneous generalisations and stereotypical views about the hundreds of thousands of Arabs with whom we have forged a rich, diverse and harmonious nation."

These two quotes tell us a lot: Bagaric wants to find the "root cause". If this is true, why does he acknowledge that the people of Cronulla(and elsewhere in Sydney) had a grievance about Lebanese gangs commiting violence on their community, but then in the next breath he tells us how it was wrong for this anxiety to spill over into any kind of anger or generalisations? Why does he also refer to the white people in Cronulla as racists?

The problem is this: there is a real and massive problem with gangs of cowards from Middle-Eastern backgrounds, let alone other ethnic gangs such as the Asian ones who are involved, with the Lebanese muslim gangs, in, as quoted by the then serving NSW police commissioner and also former Federal police commissioner, that "most of Australia's crime is ethnic based", and that there are no "anglo-gangs" of any consequence except the bikies but they are not really just for anglos(there are even Lebanese members, Christian mind you), and they don't terrorise the public at shopping malls, parks, beaches and on public transport.
How dare Mr Bagaric call those protesters at Cronulla racists with no real reason to be frustrated, unless he first has an unofficial chat(due to the curse of political correctness, the police officers generally don't speak out, but they will off the record) about the real seriousness of the disgusting levels of intimidation these Lebanese gangs dish out, not just to the public, but also to the police.

Continue on Part II

Part II

Ask the officers how many stories fellow officers have told him about commanders ordering you to "let them go" or "retreat to the station" so as to avoid any kind of bloodbath and subsequent grilling over possible racism and then the commander gets no promotion, the political, selfish thing. Ask the young kids on the ground, the unemployed and the working class, whether they have been bashed, spat at, sexually harassed, forced to stop going to certain places, all because they are "skips".
Similarly, ask the Lebanese muslim kids and see the difference in what they say: the media always calls us terrorists and rapists, people seem to be staring at us. They won't be able to tell you about how their cousin was gang raped by a gang of racist Anglos taunting their muslimness, or how their brother was stabbed to death or shot because while drunk a group of white guys pushed him for no reason, or how every shopping night gangs of white guys hang around the plazas and parks and train stations staring at people, shoulder barging young men, swearing in front of old ladies and harassing to stalking level young girls, or how they play football in the middle of your street so that you feel intimidated when you need to drive through them.

Now, once you "teach yourself" the true extent of the actual racism coming from these muslim men, and knowing that whenever a white person brings this issue up they get told to "shut up racist", and no politician, except the One Nation members, even dare to acknowledge this big racism problem coming from a couple of Australia's ethnic communities, coupled with the fact that also for political and career reasons, the police do nothing constructive, they let the gangs do what they want until they become physical, if they catch them, what does Bagaric expect a group of people to do who are intimidated, bashed, in fear of their lives, but who get told to piss off for being racist when they bring it up?

Continued in Part III

I've never had a Muslim knock on my door wanting to tell me about their faith. The GB on this site really do have their heads up a smelly passage. You like to think that these comments by posters about Islam are through ignorance and I'm sure some are, but some a deliberate untruths to push their own regions beliefs. Islam is as a diverse religion as Jewish, not as diverse as Christianity with it's 30,000 + sects. Most Muslims practice a modern liberal form of Islam which fits well with our modern world. Some don't as some Jews not, as some Hindus and every other religion does. To say that Christianity is different is to display stupidity of the highest order there are many Christian groups with millions of followers that think the 10 commandments should be law, that don’t like democracy and secular government.