AH the very left! a weight we must lift each election and run with yes my wish to defeat and remove Howad is strong but the weight the left puts in our saddle bags can be seen here.
Let us not stray too far from truth, this country has a few raceists yes few .
But this country has suffered from its open door to all policys and only a few denie it.
Reality is some minoritys are behaveing dreadfully in fact like raceists, and that is always wrong.

May I quote: "You should instill a hatred for this culture and its ways in the hearts of your children, and inform them that it is contrary to divine law and the sound nature of man. Give them examples and contrast it with Islamic morals, and instill a sense of connection with Islamic culture and its ways, and let them know that they will not stay in that land for long."

This, my friends, is what multiculturalists are defending. I like the part about "Islamic morals, Islamic culture and its ways". Of course included in those "morals" and "ways" are terror, beheadings, female genital mutilation, forced marriages, honor killings, slavery, abuse of women, beatings, discrimination, oppression, and so on.

Here is the link if you want to read the whole thing at Islam_QA (which I have mentioned here before as the "most honest Islamic site on the Internet"):

http://63.175.194.25/index.php?ln=eng&ds=qa&lv=browse&QR=70256&dgn=4

For reference, the item is 70256. The text is nausiating, but at least it is honest. Give them credit - they understand Islam and they tell it like it is.

They also say that Muslim should "leave that kaafir land, because the (Torturing, wife-beating, murdering, wife-beating) Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) disavowed himself of anyone who settles among the mushrikeen." Of course, you and I know that this is true, but our Muslim friends love to live in the West, even if they hate the people, its cultures and political systems. (I added a few choice adjetives to the quote, in case you didn't notice). I really doubt that Austalian Muslims are in a hurry to get back to Mohammedland, and to the joys of living under Islam. They all want to come to the West and bring all that "joy" with them, so we can be miserable too.

See, the young people of "Middle Eastern Appearance", known in real-life as "Muslims" are just doing what Muslims do, and Peter Kell is doing what PC Multiculturalists do.

Life is so easy when you are honest.

John aka kactuz aka kactuzkid

I agree with Peter Kell and I am horrified at the tone of the other forum members. You do not represent all Australians. Have a look at the posts, by putting down anyone with a different opinion - the lefties and reds etc- Online opinion is taking on the tone of a seditious nasty site ruled by bigotted opinionated drones.
Fair go. Spite and rhetoric can not be claimed as intellegent thought.

Kactus.

You confuse, like most westerners, Islamic practices with Ancient Arab Empire traditions. Most of those things you mention were Arab traditions.
The history and expansion of Islam and the Arab Empire are intwined but they show distinctly different cultural traits. However having said that because Islam was incubated within the Arab Empire it adopted many Arab traditions. But not all converts to Islam adopted all those traditions. The Classic example were the remenants of the Persian Empire. They actually wrested control of Islam from the Arabs. That really was the golden age of Islam when it's scholarship and science led the world. We adopted their number system and the concept of zero. We still use the navigation principles they invented.
However that all changed with the end of the Caliphates, the advent of fundamentalism (Wahabbism) and the return of the leadership of Islam to the Arab heartland in about the 11th century AD.

Modern day examples would be Indonesia and Malaysia and Australia. The brand of Islam in those countries carries few of the traditional Arab ways.

I am tired of all the negativity about Australian Islam so I will share a positive ancedote.
Yesterday my daughter bought us a new christmas tree. When I asked if she was replacing ours because it was worn out, she replied 'No it was a gift for her Iraqi friends'. She'd recently befriended a divorced Muslim family; a mother and two children. Naturally enough I blurted, as you would, 'But they don't celebrate Christmas.'
My daughter simply smiled and said 'But the kids wanted one.' Now how many non-christian Australians have Christmas trees? I'd bet millions.

Oh how we intergrate.

In a very few words arjay has summarised the sentiments of a great many posters here - the fact that I think him to be some what off the mark in his assertions is immaterial.

I would be keen for him do differentiate the lies, distortions and the facts he maintains Kell delivers from the truth as he sees it.

He can jot down any number of trnasgreesion by the Lebanese community or middle eastern types as he likes - in the end he and so many others simply look like fundamentalist of another kind generalisng from the particular, projecting their own prejudicial perspectives on an entire class of people.

His ultimate solution really cuts to the chase; in the deepest recesses of his heart he longs to rid the land of those who think differently to him and the nebulous "we" who dont care for what Peter or those of his "ilk" think - it would need a very large boat and a very welcoming nation to accept all those who are sympathetic with Peters take on the world.

It is that ultimate solution that points to the poverty of thought in those who seek the simplistic solution to a complex problem.

Rejecting preconceptions and stereotypes, even in the face of that very same approach in the opponent, is one of the ways we may seek some resolution to the tensions we are faced with.

Peter Kell joins the ranks of the 'leftist screaming minority' that has taken so much joy in disparaging their nation and pointing the finger at Howard (surprise surprise). It is almost surprising these people choose to live in what they consider such a racist and backward nation- I say almost because deep down they know they are residing in the most idylic/ tolerant nation on earth.

So why are people like Kell the way they are. It isn't because they want to encourage free speach and debate.And it has absolutely nothing to do with them being more learned than their fellow Australians. It has absolutely everything to do with the likes of Kell having formed an 'elitist' academic/ political clique that never considers average Australians because they are 'wrong'.

Well Mr Kell I'm sick of hearing that my fellow Australians are always wrong. And I'm sick of being branded a racist for voicing opinion that is not racist. And I'm sick of you and your mates hijacking the public agenda while force feading us rubbish about how much Asia may hate us. If Asia is so great go pedal your story there. Just be careful not to get thrown in jail for pedaling it in Malaysia or get summarily executed in North Korea for critricising the leadership there. Maybe you could go to Burma or Laos or Vietnam...

As Howard said "Apologising for your heritage is not the way to make minorities feel welcome..we are who we are."