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Cronulla Beach riots: making waves for the Asia Pacific region : Comments

By Peter Kell, published 19/12/2005

Peter Kell argues ambivalence by Howard Government has seen the trashing of the concept of multiculturalism.

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Of course there was no racism at Cronulla. In fact, racism doesn't exist anywhere. It's just an invention of the politically correct, Muslim loving, pinko, commie left. Anyone crying 'racism' are simply revelling in victimhood and wanting yet another handout. The Nazi leaflets at the Cronulla rally were a figment of the media's imagination. And were women really called 'Aussie sluts' or was that just more wallowing in victimhood? The latter, of course. And now we hear about supposed racism of South-East Asian countries. They're not racist. They're just deciding on who comes there and the manner in which they come. Cronulla could learn a lot from Singapore.
Posted by DavidJS, Monday, 19 December 2005 12:26:23 PM
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Terence Hanlon burned down a mosque didn't physically harm anyone, he got 6 years which is a long time despite hsi being on mdeication when the crime was comitted.

I would say that the NSW Police Force won't even seriously go after these xmas carol shooters or the church burners. When it comes to ethnic violence the police are hopeless. This is because the police due to inaction have allowed the Lebs to escalate things and pretty much do as they please. Was it multiculturalism that made the police impotent? Was it the threat of violence and riots? was it a sense of protecting their careers? Either way the police allowed Monday and Tuesday to happen. The people of NSW cannot rely on the police except to put you the Aussie male in jail for defending yourself with a tree branch. The police stayed away from Punchbowl Park and allowed Monday and Tuesday's events to happen - a riot does not equal giving a woman a baseball bat to the head. Well - guess what the people of Australia are sick of having to obey every unknown law in this over-legislated land while 2nd-generation offspring of a culturally different people are allowed to run rampant and have nothing done about them. Can anyone say: "Trial by media"? Where were the police while all this tension was building up? I can tell you where they were - out on the roads enforcing the profitable fines and adding another tax to the population. This could all become like Belfast rather quickly. People go on about sundays "riot" which was little more than a pub brawl and talk about Howard, inherent Aussie racism etc but people are really sick of all that pc nonsence and just switch off. It doesn't mean much when your brothers, Auntie etc are getting hit in the head with a baseball bat -all some people can think of is revenge.
Posted by magic jess, Monday, 19 December 2005 12:45:33 PM
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'Australians have seen themselves as a benign nation that is comfortable with diversity and accepting of difference under the idea that everyone should get “a fair go”. Much of this has been symbolised in the lifestyle of the “beach culture” and surfing the big waves of the Pacific Ocean where an easy going and relaxed attitude to life is seen as part of being an Aussie.'

That Peter is utterly simplistic and a sweeping generalisation. It shows no depth of understanding or even a smidgen of research into the following:

A fair go.

Beach culture

Being an Aussie.

Your assertions merely show a laxity in academic rigour on your part. Before you start labelling everybody with attributes you should at least gain a deeper understanding of those attributes.

I didn't take much from the rest of your article. The start was just such a terrible an exercise in self control. Yours for your lack of it and mine for having to exert it. ;-)
Posted by keith, Monday, 19 December 2005 1:47:55 PM
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Can't we just drop a bomb on Sydney after all their not Australians anyway? I’m mean there would have to some fundamental flaw in your personality to want to live there in the first place. :-)

It’s Racism when you make a judgment about someone based on their race, it's sexism when you make a judgment about someone based on their sex these are not hard concepts or though is does seem to be hard for some. AS they say a week is a long time in politics but have people really forgotten What Howard has said about Asian immigration and what’s his fav radio station 2gb.
Posted by Kenny, Monday, 19 December 2005 1:49:43 PM
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Peter,

I find skewing and leveraging off unfortunate circumstances to promote your cause disheartening.

I wish people would face the truth:

It is about smartasses, not races, it just happenned that these particular smartasses were lebs, who are known to oppress others across Sydney. Aussie masses, just like many of us as individuals, only decide to dig our heels in when enough is enough.

Aussies are not racist, the remarks etc that Sunday were not intended to be racist, it is just that if these smartasses all wore sailor suits, it would be 'Kill Sailors'.

if they dressed like wiggles and had green hair, they would be saying 'kill green haired wiggles'.

Aussies dont like smartasses, we are not racist we live in the 21st century, it is that like most things in life, it was to do with general appearance not race.

As for Asia, we do not want to end up like those cultures for many reasons. John Howard is not evil, he genuinely loves Australia and he is privy to more information on these subjects.

Howard is right that poor immigration policies can have a dire effect on encroaching Australia's values and way of life. Imagine if it was a free for all? last Sunday would be a common occurance and most likely we will become segregated as a nation, at least for the current generation.

It is not about race, it is about attitude. Australia has a right to protect what we are envied for, and part of that is our attitude. Why dont other countries have it? why do our Asian neighbours differ so much in general attitudes?

If we have something wonderful, and we do in Australia, i would be dissapointed in our leaders if they allow it to be degradated. A free for all would result in the attitude of the general population changing.

The biggest Aussies i know are 1st generation Aussies from Asian and European backgrounds, and that is something to be proud of.
Posted by Realist, Monday, 19 December 2005 2:11:03 PM
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LEBANESE KIN FAMILIALISM VERSUS INSECURE MARGINALISED ANGLOS

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Perhaps Kinship boundedness is a better term than racist to describe the Lebanese- Australian’s whom “took over” the beaches in the first instance. Herein, familialism and ethnic-community are the locus of the group’s value systems. Consequently, the inclusive value systems of Lebanese society set a self-view that others are outsiders.

Regrettably, familialism sits at an opposite pole to contemporary Anglo societal communitarianism, wherein, the Anglo society, even multicultural society in Anglo nation states, posits a self-view more tethered towards individualism, independence and tolerance of diversity. Otherwise put, Lebanese Kinship structures – together with their ethnically based value structures – are somewhat out of place in a liberal, open society.

Familialism is a characteristic shared by the Lebanese community at large, because the histographical nearness of tribalism. Thus, the behaviour of Lebanese youths protecting turf and women’s modesty are generally held Lebanese views, representative of the broader Lebanese society.

On the hand, the Anglo thugs are in-gang extremists looking for a cause. In this frame, some readers might recall the “Surfers” and “Rockers” riots of the 1960s: “The Surfers ride the boards and the Rockers drive the Fords”. These kinds of Anglo hooligans represent a different type of group, which stand in opposition to mainstream Anglo society. John Howard’s “War again Terrorism” and cries of the “terrorists are coming” provide the Anglo gangs a modicum of legitimacy. However, theirs is a Clayton’s case.

Gangs, extremists (by definition) and red necks are not mainstream society. It follows that the Anglo combatants here, are not holding the values seated at the locus of the modern Anglo-West
Posted by Oliver, Monday, 19 December 2005 2:12:25 PM
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