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The Forum > Article Comments > Nguyen Tuong Van's death is a wake up call: legalise illicit drugs > Comments

Nguyen Tuong Van's death is a wake up call: legalise illicit drugs : Comments

By Greg Barns, published 5/12/2005

Greg Barns argues zero tolerance of illicit drugs is a policy that is unfair, unworkable and above all, a total failure.

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Inner Sydney

Good to see you on this strand.

OK, I agree that HCL should be legalised. Much safer than the so-called "safe" injecting rooms. I bet we both agree on that.

But the author of this article is calling for legitimising all illicit drugs.

So are we going to legitimise?: ice, E, daitura, mms, acid, speed et al? You know as well as I do that hooch today is about 10 times more powerful than it was, say 10 years ago. It's all scarey stuff.

My lengthy experience in nursing young drug addicts tells me that legitamising all illicit drugs is a recipe for disaster.

Even so, I think that the legal drugs, vis a vis: alcohol and nicotine are being used by young females in hazardous proportions. My 13 years old niece has been smoking, been drunk, and has already had sexual intercourse. Saddens me beyong belief.

I am very sad for you. Your parents sound like ar**holes.

Have a Merry Christmas and stuff

Cheers
Kay
Posted by kalweb, Monday, 5 December 2005 9:23:09 PM
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Zero tolerance of drugs is the only viable policy that will work.The only way to stop this evil is to increase the punishments.Just recently a whole new approach was taken by the local magistrates court in Perth.

Offenders were made to listen to hours of boring trite speeches by intelectuals,and politicians.In one case an offender was made to listen to a speech given by John Howard given to the Country Womens Association in Perth for three hours,the change in this offender was remarkable his drug addiction was cured forever.In another case a hard line drug dealer was given a combination session of one of Alexander Downers,Amanda Vanstone,and Peter Costello's speeches that ran for some four hours.Not only was he cured he went on to to be a missionary serving in South Africa.Apparently he has been nominated for the Nobel prize for medicine.
Posted by PHILB, Monday, 5 December 2005 10:03:20 PM
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What a stupid article. This website is such a massive waste of space. Why am i even writing this? Why dont y'all go out and speak to a real person. Writing anonymous posts on the internet doesnt actually achieve anything. How do i unregister?
Posted by weapon, Monday, 5 December 2005 10:39:40 PM
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If the drug trade was legalised, then it would not be as profitable as it is, so Van Nyugen would have been forced into some other profitable (and probably illegal) activity in order to gain the money he wanted. I think that the way Van Nyugen has been treated is obscene, but don't forget that he is not an innocent victim - he willingly participated in illegal activity in order to profit.

I am disgusted that the fact that an Australian has been executed raises public interest. The issue should be whether there should be a death penalty, not that Australians should be exempt from it.
Posted by ElJayel, Monday, 5 December 2005 11:01:17 PM
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PhilB,

(Is that Phil B, or Philby I wonder?)

Listening to the munchkin (Our most munificent, omnipotent and benevolent south-east asian warlord and despot, all 4 1/2 feet of him [hang on, would our beloved leader be interested in having military parades in Canberra? Perhaps, our single armoured regiment could go past several times to add to the majesty of the display {well going round in circles IS very easy in Canberra}]) speak to the CWA would probably make me turn to drugs, simply to relieve the intellectual trauma imposed.

As for the Academia, their speeches did actually contribute to the whole 'tune in, turn on & drop out' phenonoma of the 1960's.

Moreover, surely such an approach could be demonstrated to constitute 'cruel and unreasonble' treatment, at least if anyone died (of boredom) from such, the lecturer could raise the defence that it was reasonable in the circumstances. This defence would probably be succesful, as otherwise judges would be liable to trial for the same offence.

Trooper Redneck, do you recognise the callsign 80 etc?
Posted by Aaron, Tuesday, 6 December 2005 12:06:25 AM
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I'm unsure that legalisation is the solution. I agree that it would neutralise the drug cartels and clean up needles and streets.

However I wonder whether the underlying problem is not to do with the supply side but with the demand side. What do we know about the lives of those people who take up drug habits? Why do they turn to such releases?
Unfortunately, our governments are so busy building an economy they have lost sight of their effect on society

Legalisation alone would no be enough.

Prevention on the demand side, while drug lords have a chance to make super-profits also won't be enough.
Posted by Greenlight, Tuesday, 6 December 2005 1:40:58 AM
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