Philo, your post had little to do with the issues I raised but I guess we all do that at times.

I'll agree that there are some who will not integrate but then there are plenty of Australian born non-muslims who do not integrate either. Almost any given 1/2 hour of a current affairs show will give you examples. I suspect that the difference in level of integration between moderate muslims and people of some other groups is not that great. Integration into the Australian community is a pretty wide target.

I've met christian women who cover their heads fairly regularly for religious reasons. I have yet to see an argument for all christain women not covering their hair in church services that is consistant with the type of logic demanded of muslims in regard to the Quran by some christains posters. It's OK for christans to put aside parts of their scriptures because of interpretation but not OK for muslims - why.

There are non-drinkers in the broader community, there are people who generally socialise with others of a similar social background etc. Does a muslim have to be more "aussie" than most other aussies before they are integrated? Should I be kicked out because I only drink in moderation and never get drunk?

And again what has all this got to do with the article - plenty to do with muslims in Australia but there are other threads about that topic.

R0bert

Haveing watched the young lady tell what she can of her story without harming others its time to leave her be.
The one thing she says she is is an Aussie Muslim , if she is I can live with that dressed like an Aussie not telling me we must change to fit in with another way of life she is ok by me.
R bigotry is unwellcome in any form from any relidgion, some followers of all faiths fill that bill, bigotry!

Michele did a lovely job in handling the Indonesian legal system, anybody with a brain would approach it as she did. If they told me that going before a court and praying to god would get me off with a slap on the wrist, I'd be on me knees quickly. It is not hard to appear to uphold demonic fallacies if they will give you and advantage without hurting anyone, except the blanks depression.

As can be seen in all the current world problems, it is not people like Michele that have a credibility problem, it is islam and all other religions, that face the reality of non credibility. When we get self righteous diatribes coming from the mentally inept, then we can see how peaceful and loving they are. Salam is just typical of the blind religious that really have no understanding of reality.

Look at islamic countries, corruption is the major part of their economies. It is only realistic for someone caught up in their system to use the methods that the religious use to gain advantage, corrupt and unethical practices. Countries under the control of Christianity are the same, but in a different form, lying, false information, misrepresentation, and favoring of vested interests.

Michele put her head down and went with the flow, Corby allowed the government to get involved, thus stopping any chance of using the Indonesian system to her advantage. Salam like all those oppressed by their illogically violent belief system, is jealous because she doesn't have the fortitude to be a real person, just a clone.

If there is any explaining to do, it should be Salam explaining why her faith is so divisive and a major part of the cause of all the ills in the world. After all how credible is someone that has to walk around fully covered in blazing sun, why not just put paper bags on your heads, at least it would give us a laugh rather than feeling insulted. Lets have an explanation as to the inconsistencies of islam, in what it preaches and its worldwide expression.

As one who has spent many weeks in Indonesia over the last 10 years I say "go girl!". That country is a corrupt and dangerous place and populated by so-called "gentle" Muslims who hate with a fierce passion. Anything she could do to avoid spending 15 years in hell is acceptable. Three months in prison is suitable punishment for two pills and if her "conversion", even temporary, helped her get out of there, so much the better.

Im not sure she's just to explain about the muslim ,what about the anxiety disorder I find that anoying too, I have one and you dont use that kind of medication for anxiety? I think its all a sham and she got caught out partying hard lucky lucky girl indeed to get out of bali shappelle is still there

madd

See my post of Thursday, November 24.

Cheers
Kay