It sounds like this forum is becoming a circus for various Christian and Jewish forms of al-Qaida. Well, i hope you animals behave yourselves. I must go as I have a normal job and a normal life.

It will not happen. Muslims cannot be serious about condemning terror and still be Muslims. After much thought I have come to the conclusion that most Muslims are not peaceful. A better word for them would be INDIFFERENT. They do not care about others; they want to be seen as tolerant, but refuse to be tolerant. The fact is that condemning terror is easy – and it doesn’t work. As long as there is a large group of people out there filled with hate and anger, and who find in their religion justification for their actions, the terror will continue, and Muslims will condemn it, and there will be more bombings, and Muslims will condemn them (wink) also and then there will be beheadings, which Muslims will likewise condemn (wink), and so on. Muslims condemning terror is not working, so there must be something else….

I also have no faith in even moderate Muslims, because they are in denial. They refuse to see that Islam has serious philosophical and ethical problems. For example, I had asked Irfan if a man that hideously tortures a man to death could be considered a “good person” (see verse 261 at http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/fundamentals/hadithsunnah/bukhari/052.sbt.html) All I wanted was a ‘yes’ or ‘no’, but Irfan did not answer my post. The fact is that he can’t answer it, because the implications of either reply are damning. A ‘no’ means he can’t honestly be a Muslim, a ‘yes’ means he is, like his prophet, immoral.

Kactuz John

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So how can we live with people that does’t share our values of equality and freedom? Just look at countries where Islam dominates and how they treat other religions, women, gays, etc...! How can we dialogue with people who cannot bring themselves to see the obvious? If the Koran says “Kill all the infidels wherever you find them” and “beat your wives’ (and many other such passages) Muslims must accept that there is there an interpretation of Islam in which brutality, murder and terror are not only justified, but encouraged. At that point, Muslims have no right to say that that the ‘peaceful’ interpretation is any more valid than the ‘jihad’ version. In fact, it appears that the so-called peaceful version being served up to the West is nothing more than the old and honored Islamic doctrine of Al-taquiya (deception).

So, save your energy and breath. Muslims condemning terror is a waste of time. It doesn’t work. I have the feeling they do it only because it is all they can do, and not doing it would seem suspicious. They condemn and condemn until the magic word slips out: "but...".

Therefore, be certain that Islamic terror will not only continue but become worse - until some terrible atrocity happens that shocks even the most peaceful and quiet people in the West. I hope I am wrong about this, but….

John aka kactuz

So Kactuz, Mamdouh Habib was sent to Egypt to be tortured. Were the people that did that and allowed it to happen good people? Is it only Moslems who do these things?

This analysis is very good.

I heard a very good talk-back caller the other day ask "Why don't Muslim leaders around the world issue a fatwah (spelling) condemming terror in the name of Islam"? Good question but seriously lacking answers from the Muslim community!

It is very disappointing to keep seeing the same wimpy statements being made by the same leaders after terrorist attacks. Bring on one-way deportation for those who don't fully condemm terrorism in the name of Islam (or any other religion) and their supporters.

A further excellent article was written by Prof David Flint. I think he has the correct idea when it comes to multicultural separatism being promoted by the cultural elites who waste taxpayer moneys in our universities.

Christian religous leaders should also be taking the lead in denouncing and stopping terrorist acts (war) by christians.
What we call war is in fact a more modern way of killing civilians.
One definition of a terrorist is "a man with a bomb who does not have an air force".
It is time we stopped kidding ourselves that calling terrorism war makes it okay to kill civilians.