IFRFAN :)
Thanx for your concern.
and there you go again.. ramping up the 'hate' stuff -no longer is it 'you hate us', but now its 'PATHALOGICAL' hate :)...

Irfan, its passion, not hate. If you feel hated, I suggest you need treatment. I prescribe 1 Cor 13
Re-read my reference to 'this prince or that noble family' etc ok....
We are ALL sinners, including me.

The declaration of independance was in the eyes of Belgrade 'Treachery' and it is no different from what Ash claims was the 'breaking of a treaty in a time of war' between the Banu Qurayza and Mohammed.

So, my 'rather colorful' description of events, is as much to get people 'THINKING'and questioning the 'PR' face of the various parties to the dispute, and that includes Serbs who might be tempted to justify the slaughter of Muslims.

About Malaysia .. I'm sure there ARE times when my passion stems from shameful hurtful disgusting brutal tyranical dehumanizing experiences at the hands of 'Islam' from there. Would you not understand that ? having LIVED under it, (Islam as a majority in a 'moderate' country)
I know the 'mind-set' of moderate Islam in majority or even 'authority/yet minority' status, so I don't speak from what I read in the papers mate.

But I must affirm, that my reasoning can stand by itself generally.
Just be careful not take too seriously all I say as an expression of 'who I am'.. how I feel etc. I repeat, getting people to think is a process involving strategies.

It is an undeniable fact of life, that all people seek to shape a society they live in, in terms of their own world view, either consciously or un.

If you are an ABC but society is XYZ your growth as ABCs will invariably threaten the XYZs, and conversely. Only when the XYZs are silent, sleeping and slack , will they be overtaken by the ABC's.

It is the height of cultural arrogance for ABCs to come to XYZ country and tell them to change their laws for their sake.

I think that, as far as these forums go, Boaz-o is way out in front of his competitors as the leading perpetrator of the 'sin' of spreading hate and fear of Muslims. It's clowns like him who are feeding hate and intolerance in Australian society via their pathological dissemination of anti-Muslim propaganda at every opportunity.

I used to think that his posts to these forums should best be ignored since they are self-evidently pointers to the poor man's psychopathology, but he has ramped up his attacks on Muslims since the London bombings, thus providing oxygen for several other delusional fanatics whose support he promiscuously accepts.

It's the godbotherers, rednecks and xenophobes in our society that worry me, rather than a handful of disaffected Muslim youths.

"The declaration of independance was in the eyes of Belgrade 'Treachery' "

So what? Are you implying that Belgrade had a bona fide interest in maintaining a politically equitable Yugoslavia? If you are, then that appointment with the shrink is long overdue. The Bosnian government was caught between a rock and a hard place. If they did not follow the Slovenian and Croatian leads in declaring independence they would have ended up as part of a rump yugoslavia entirely dominated by Belgrade. There was no moral, strategic or political impetus for them to pay lip service to Milosevic, a man whose pragmatism and opportunism was so great that he became an ultra-nationalist only for the simple reason that it would afford him an opportunity to grasp and extend his personal power and retain Serbian control over Kosovo.

Travel to Sarajevo, speak to Bosnians, and you will be able to form a picture of what happened there. Most Serbs there realise that something happened there which was not right, and which they were a part of, even if unwittingly. No one believes that it was about religion, simply that a few men with a warped vision of the future of the Balkans were able to manipulate submerged emotions for their, and no one else's gain.

And finally, have you ever been to Srebrenica David? If you had, and you had felt the touch of death, hate and misery that hangs over that once beautiful town, you would never, ever speak of it like that again.

JULES

Let me clarify my overall approach for your peace of mind :)

One thing I weary of very quickly is when people assess any given situation in terms of a particular point in history(usually very recent, and which relates specifically to their own POV or vested social/cultural/religious interests) and then go on to utterly condemn this or that group which they percieve as being opposed to said interests etc.

Further, when one group which itself has incredibly 'colorful' baggage and even worse, specific issues in its foundation documents which point to underlying attitudes at least as bad if not worse than the 'devil' they are trying to currently demonize.
(e.g. you would take issue with a national socialist in part because u know by default he would be an admirer of the sentiments contained in 'Mein Kampf' right ?)
The Muslim community is particularly enthusiastic about condemning the Serbs for atrocities (rightly so) but they do it with a 'But WE... have never and would never do such a thing..nooo no no no"

When the reality is as far as the East is from the West. The obvious example (which was 'a' motivating force behind the Serb action) is the Ottoman invasion in the 1300's. Quote "And it was about this time when the Ottoman Turks first laid waste the countryside"

Now consider this. Those Serbs, (as with the Celts who were exiled from Britain by the invading Saxons, who returned with the Duke of Normandy to re-take stolen land) have never, and will never forget the humiliation and 'dhimmitude' imposed on them by the Ottomans. The Muslim community is a continual reminder of that experience.

The aboriginals of Twofold bay in NSW have not and will never forget the massacre of their people by Sealers who were 'offended' by the Aboriginals attacking them in defense of their land.

The Jews have not, and will never forget the mass murder of their people the Bani Qurayza at the hands of Mohammed. (600-900 men and boys)

That, .....is my point

Is it just me? Or are others wishing B-D would just come out and declare his wish to see all Muslims eliminated?