The National Forum   Donate   Your Account   On Line Opinion   Forum   Blogs   Polling   About   
The Forum - On Line Opinion's article discussion area



Syndicate
RSS/XML


RSS 2.0

Main Articles General

Sign In      Register

The Forum > Article Comments > The gender agenda > Comments

The gender agenda : Comments

By Kevin Donnelly, published 17/6/2005

Kevin Donnelly argues schools might be just too politically correct when it comes to the issue of gender and sexuality.

  1. Pages:
  2. 1
  3. 2
  4. 3
  5. 4
  6. Page 5
  7. 6
  8. 7
  9. 8
  10. 9
  11. 10
  12. 11
  13. All
You cannot be encouraged into a homosexual "lifestyle". If you asked any homosexual about this they will tell you that being homosexual is just what is natural to them, the same as being heterosexual is what is natural for you or I. You or I couldn't be "encouraged" into homosexuality any more than homosexuals could be encouraged into a heterosexual lifestyle. REALLY! I challenge anyone who disagrees with me to go talk to some GLBTers and see what they say. If I'm wrong, so be it but I really don't think I am.

With regards to abortions and STDs, I agree with you wholeheartedly that abstinence is the most effective form of contraceptive, but I think it is a little unreasonable to expect people with raging hormones to simply not have sex. God didn't give us powerful sex drives for no reason ;-) I can see that telling people not to have sex before marriage would be a good way to prevent STDs, but it's out of line with human nature and therefore not the best way, in my opinion. A better way (because I believe more people will agree to follow the advice) is high quality sex education - if you really think having sex is a good idea, make it safe.
Posted by Albert, Sunday, 19 June 2005 9:29:13 PM
Find out more about this user Visit this user's webpage Recommend this comment for deletion Return to top of page Return to Forum Main Page Copy comment URL to clipboard
I personally think that our Education System should pay more attention to how our teachers treat our children, as that is what has the most impact and leaves the lasting impressions.

Teachers are humans and many of them have their own prejudices and issues that they bring with them to school and into the classroom and some children are as a result not treated as kindly or fairly as others. What avenue do our children have to have their grieviances and complaints of bias or unfair treatment from teachers addressed?

I have two children in year 9 and I dont know what they would have thought if they had of been involved in this issue.

I assume my 14 year old son would have told me to get a life and that they are not stupid and that they are not going to turn gay just because they stop for a minute and consider the scenario and my 13 year old daughter would have told me that she would have been embarrassed by the whole thing. How it affects a child, depends on the child's personality and situation.

I personally believe that we do need to be careful how we teach these sensitive subjects as I do think that you can make a vulnerable sensitive child that doesn't fit in believe that they are something that they are not if it fills a void.

If people all just treated each other with respect it wouldn't be an issue or problem.
Posted by Jolanda, Monday, 20 June 2005 11:48:38 AM
Find out more about this user Visit this user's webpage Recommend this comment for deletion Return to top of page Return to Forum Main Page Copy comment URL to clipboard
The curious thing is the lather people get into over things like this. It is actually very hard to change behaviours(assuming in this case it possible) in any direction at school, hence the difficulty in drug education, nutrition education etc.

It is a long way from cognitive to behaviour I very sorry to say so why do people imagine that "the devil has all the good tunes"
Posted by Richard, Monday, 20 June 2005 11:56:49 AM
Find out more about this user Recommend this comment for deletion Return to top of page Return to Forum Main Page Copy comment URL to clipboard
Richard.

The problem as I see it is that schools are not changing behaviour, they are directing it and guiding it.

Schools focus too much on the wrong subjects and therefore so do the students.

They should be teaching and encouraging our children to read and write and do maths and teaching them how to go about getting information so that instead of teaching our children how to use condoms and how to have sex and how to take drugs, they should be asking them to research the amount of sexually transmitted diseases, the cost of bringing up a child, the affects of drugs on the person and on the community and asking them to voice their opinions and to make their choices based on the information that they have gathered. Informed choices.

For those who’s hormones or personalities are such that they cannot help themselves and they want more information, they should read books on the subject or see the school counsellor personally.
Posted by Jolanda, Monday, 20 June 2005 12:15:49 PM
Find out more about this user Visit this user's webpage Recommend this comment for deletion Return to top of page Return to Forum Main Page Copy comment URL to clipboard
"The curious thing is the lather people get into over things like this. It is actually very hard to change behaviours(assuming in this case it possible) in any direction at school, hence the difficulty in drug education, nutrition education etc."

Utterly untrue, by scattering condoms on the school premises one can reasonably sit back and wait for the inevitable results. One of those results will be that boys use them on *younger* girls. So one can take two years from the recipient's age to see where it is probably going.

In the UK educational sex abuse is entirely out of control. Teachers are involved, peers do it, it is endemic. The panacea is usually more condoms, more school appointed abortions and more intimidation of pupils alleging sexual abuse.

In the UK we are drifting towards a policy which has *all* children conplaining of educator sexual abuse automatically punished. Peer abuse is part of the co-ed experience and will probably be designated 'education' in a couple of years.
Posted by Cadiz, Monday, 20 June 2005 2:32:27 PM
Find out more about this user Recommend this comment for deletion Return to top of page Return to Forum Main Page Copy comment URL to clipboard
"You cannot be encouraged into a homosexual "lifestyle". If you asked any homosexual about this they will tell you that being homosexual is just what is natural to them, the same as being heterosexual is what is natural for you or I."

That is *entirely* mistaken. I took the queer experience to the eastern bloc when the STASI and KGB were reasonably hostile. Queer theory had homosexuality as both LIFESTYLE and CHOICE.

These days we are told it is perhaps a state of being. I use the word 'perhaps' because while we are legislating for 'orientation' we have failed to scientifically define what it is.

The paedophile arguments in the United States illustrate the connundrum exactly, if it a city or govt. grant the gay lobbyists require than *all* homosexual activity is part of the collective caucus and every constituent a mandate.

However if it is a criminological definition of profiles for child sex abusers that is a different state of affairs. Gay lobbyists *generaly* use two diametrically opposing definitions. One has lots of gay people and the other has very few.

Encouraging young people into a homosexual lifestyle is very easy if the practice and exhibition of sexuality is the phenomena defining the orientation.

It is not just extreme educational policies. Affecting change in vulnerable groups is no more difficult than getting people to change favourite rock bands. Two gay parents will for example also promote consistent and radical issues
Posted by Cadiz, Monday, 20 June 2005 2:49:00 PM
Find out more about this user Recommend this comment for deletion Return to top of page Return to Forum Main Page Copy comment URL to clipboard
  1. Pages:
  2. 1
  3. 2
  4. 3
  5. 4
  6. Page 5
  7. 6
  8. 7
  9. 8
  10. 9
  11. 10
  12. 11
  13. All

About Us :: Search :: Discuss :: Feedback :: Legals :: Privacy