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The gender agenda : Comments

By Kevin Donnelly, published 17/6/2005

Kevin Donnelly argues schools might be just too politically correct when it comes to the issue of gender and sexuality.

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To all posters

Have I lost the plot? Harking back to the first paragraph or so of the article - and despite the fact that I have read and re read all postings, I remain concerned about the scenario being presented to Year 9 students.

Is the scenario designed for the purpose of teaching young people about marginalised groups? Is it about teaching young people about sexuality? Is it about both?

A year 9 student is about 12-14 years of age. Searching for identity. Searching to understand body, emotional, behavioural changes. Searching to understand self.

I do not want my children being challenged about being a minority group of heterosexuals. They are beginning to learn about being heterosexual for goodness sake.

Their minds are young and alert. They are extremely impressionable. They need to learn about the structure and function of their own bodies before they are anywhere near ready for such sophisticated debate.

A better example of teaching about minority groups would be to pose a question about being indigenous in Australian society.

If my posting seems naive and concrete - well, I guess I am. Is there anyone who thinks like me?

Cheers
Kay
Posted by kalweb, Sunday, 19 June 2005 4:17:25 PM
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Aslan, old boy, for the simple reason that your lot no longer call the shots - in this society or anywhere else.

Hallelujah!
Posted by garra, Sunday, 19 June 2005 4:28:27 PM
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Garra,

So who calls the shots now? Those who think like you?

Kay,

Yes, there are many who think like you. In fact, I think you will find the vast majority think like you, as shown by a recent study by the Australian Institute of Family Studies.

You have actually identified the core issue. The gay lobbiests are deliberately targeting young people because - as you point out - they are at their most vulnerable stage of development.

This way young males, in particular, may be persuaded to think that they might be gay and are encouraged to contact some gay counselling service which is only too happy to confirm that they really are gay and that they should become involved in the gay community and gives them an invitation to their next orgie, where they get given alcohol and/or drugs and money and then are taken advantage of...

I have heard of this sort thing from numerous sources now - including from some of the perpetrators who are thankfully now in jail.
Posted by Aslan, Sunday, 19 June 2005 4:47:10 PM
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Asian

Thank you for your post. However, you have either misunderstood or misinterpreted what I am saying.

I do not have an issue with homosexual people (male or female). My concern is with the Education Department and its "so-called" balanced teaching of my children about important personal and societal issues - indeed complex issues for year 9 students - and inappropriate dialogue.

I am not an anti homosexual lobbyist.
Cheers
Kay
Posted by kalweb, Sunday, 19 June 2005 6:22:32 PM
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Kay, basic sex-ed normally takes place in primary school, (Years 4, 6-9 for myself IIRC and that's in Catholic schooling.) so structure and function should already be known. Considering that sex is not incredibly uncommon for year 9 students these days, and that social studies, biology and basic algebra & physics are normally in the curriculum, I don't think it is beyond them.

I don't see why learning what homosexuality is would detract from learning about heterosexuality, or understanding/coping with new heterosexual emotions. And what about the GLBT students? They are going to have a much harder time coming to grips with their sexuality and place in the world if neither they nor their friends properly understand it. The benefits of early education is very clear for the transgendered, since early understanding and action can prevent development of secondary sexual characteristics (ie. breasts, voice changes, hair etc.).
Posted by Deuc, Sunday, 19 June 2005 8:08:06 PM
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Garra, I can tell you that we are in this society together and share its medical costs. It is all of us who pay for AIDS and STD's research and treatment, it is us who pay for 100,000 abortions each year leaving a train of emotional and psychological trauma to clean up. The avoidance of these social indulgences could allow funds to building a better society. I can tell you that in the end it wil be those that respect and practise abstainance before marriage and hetrosexual marriage that will populate the world with healthy and emotionally secure children.

To be promoting the gay and lesbian agenda to immature children is irrisponsible, they should be educated in wholesome normal behaviour. I have had five children and eight foster children in my care, and have encouraged everyone of them in normal family male to female relationships.
Posted by Philo, Sunday, 19 June 2005 8:18:52 PM
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