Xena,
Thankyou for your unsubstantiated name calling (eg “sweet helpless Timkins” etc)

It is noticed that certain people will continuously attempt to discredit myself individually, but present no real examples or attempt to substainate what they say. I thought this would be considered a form of domestic violence, if it was a domestic environment.

However the topic is on bias in domestic violence surveys. Do you have any evidence to say that they are not (without useing anecdotal evidence, stereotyping etc).

Timkins

Violence: Physical force exerted for the purpose of violating, damaging, or abusing: crimes of violence. Source Macquarie Dictionary.

I would capitalise the word physical but then you would claim that it is shouting and therefore abuse.

You over react to any disagreement to your POV - I interpreted this as a cetain helplessness on your part as you find it so difficult to accept that others do not hold the same opinion as you.

You constantly denigrate female posters to this forum - yet complain if anyone (male or female) criticises male behaviour. These same posters have also criticised female behaviour - yet you deliberately ignore this.

You selectively respond to other posters often ignoring reasonable questions.

You manipulate statistics and provide often vague and questionable hyperlinks - this proves Michael Gray's argument - but not in the way he was trying to prove.

The fact that you react so aggresively to any disagreement to your POV indicates a lack of maturity hence Ringtail's description of you as being juvenile. That is not abuse it is an opinion derived from the nature of your posts.

Many posters here disagree with each other but still manage to pleasantly engage in discourse with one another.

garra, you might also want to consider the woman who shot husband and kids in NSW a few months ago.

It's easy to look at isolated incidents and if you ignore the ones which don't suit your perceptions then the picture can look very bleak. Men women and children all suffer from DV regardless of what you want to believe. Women are more likley to be killed by a man than men by women but children are more likely to be killed by mum than dad. There are no clear cut answers. Continuing to deny the complexity of the problem does not help resolve it, instead some of the underlying problems are left in place.

Even if there were a significant gender differentiation in DV few would deny that some men suffer as a result of DV, why deny their pain and opportunity to stop it. It's much easier and healthier to speak out against all DV regardless of who does it.

Ringtail, thanks again for you comments. Very nicely said.

For the rest. I have enough agreement with Timkins (quite different interpretations of some issues though) that I have an interest in his role in discussions on this site. I'm guessing that he has been hurt more deeply by family law drama's than I have and that his approach is a reflection of that.

Xena,
Thankyou for your generalised name calling and comments reagards myself (EG “you over react”, “you constantly denigrate”, “you selectively respond” etc)

However none of your comments provides even one specific example, so they are generalised, maligning comments, and if this was a domestic environment, it would be regarded as verbal abuse, which is now classified as a form of domestic violence.

The topic is not Timkins, but whether or not domestic violence statistics are biased. You have had made many comments about Timkins, but nothing to say that domestic violence surveys, (such as the 1996 ABS survey), are not biased.

[NB. You will find that the majority of my reference links are written by female authors, so I can hardly be biased against females]

Timkins

"Thankyou for your generalised name calling and comments reagards myself (EG “you over react”, “you constantly denigrate”, “you selectively respond” etc)"

This is not name calling this is an interpretation of your posts.

"[NB. You will find that the majority of my reference links are written by female authors, so I can hardly be biased against females]"

Women hold a diversity of opinions - to claim that you are not biased flies in the face of every denigrating thing you claim about feminists and women in general.

"The topic is not Timkins" No it is about debate and the criticism of your myopic view of DV and relentless denigration of women.

As proof of this I offer another quote from your post in 'Devaluing children in their best interests' as follows:

"Males pre-dominate in domestic violence - appears to be a myth" - Show me the stats on this one - not one of your vague and open to interpretation links. This statement reveals your true agenda.

I can show you the x-rays of my fractured skull, I can provide testimonies from many damaged women. I have provided government statistical summaries of DV perpetuated against women by men.

Now instead of bleating that you are being picked on whenever any one offers critical analysis of your dissertations, how about some substantive discussion?

Ros this is a continuation of yesterdays post... RVO’s are usually granted for two years in SA but I have known some to be one month to life. It does not affect the access to children as Family Court Orders overrule Magistrates and permission for contact for the purposes of access arrangements but if harassment occurs during these calls a third party is requested and arranged and granted by the Family Court. RVO’s can also be varied to include contact only for access arrangements by the Magistrate in the District Court and/or contact can occur as long as there is no bullying or harassment. This allows couples to have counselling and family contact with the protection of the law. I know some time ago a current affairs program ran a story on how women were being encouraged to take out RVO’s as they would help her in Court. The only impact I have seen them have on Family Court is that mediation can take place in separate interview rooms.

Violence against anyone by anyone is not acceptable and find it interesting that such organisations as Amnesty International and World Council of Churches have 'Decade against Violence Against Women' on statistics that are not 'proven facts'. Please Timkins remove yourself from stats and hyperlinks for a little while and get out there.