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Domestic violence - a statistical 'shock and awe' campaign? : Comments

By Michael Gray, published 8/6/2005

Michael Gray argues manipulation of domestic violence statistics oscures the true facts.

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The only solution is to put boy babies on mountains when they are born like they used to with girl babies in Sparta so we can keep down the numbers. lets use more sperm banks, ban men, and let the women fight our wars like Amazons. How about compulsory sterilisation for all males.

Conscript women into armies and let women make everything...bridges etc they can do it. Look out the window and tell me how many things were made by men...roads, houses, cars, factories, bridges, planes etc...all dangerous...hence the appalling death toll still in industry....also delayed deaths like with asbestos..I know there are women in factories too.

We need to even things up a bit...

Now the good thing is that Alzheimer's is 60 times more common in women and most nursing homes are inhabited by old women cared for by younger women. The men are all dead and the women can then have plenty of time to shop and chat unmolested.

An earlier death relative to women is one of the great blessings of being a boy...whether on the battle field or on the road or by a rope in one's bedroom. We men are less often widowers than women are widows.

Depression is also more common in women. God has a sense of humour afterall because He is a male.

I'm off for a sail on the wine-dark sea.
Posted by Odysseus, Friday, 8 July 2005 8:08:05 AM
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Timkins,
Perhaps if you were to read the next page of the report you quoted you would see that they did not adopt your definition but the one I quoted!
The value of this definition for our research is that it explicitly acknowledges a range of controlling behaviours that are likely to become evident from our interviews with family members accessing contact services-
Using contact with the children to control an ex-partner and minimising/ denying or blaming the target of violence were expected to be issues of particular relevance.
Our definition also explicitly acknowledges that merely separating from an abusive partner does not necessarily end the violence.The perpetrator may continue to exercise power and control over the target/s of violence, or attempt to do so, including through the court process and via residence/contact arrangements. etc.
Sachiel
Posted by Sachiel, Wednesday, 13 July 2005 8:47:51 AM
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Sachiel,
I understand that domestic violence definitions are in a state of flux, and gradually being expanded to include issues such as “you make me want to shout”, “close your eyes and I’ll kiss you “, “I saw you peek through your window”, “hold me, love me” etc.

All are now regarded as abuse, control, and perpetration of domestic violence, which is rarely, (or never), carried out by members of the female gender. In fact any type of male / female interaction can now be regarded as male abuse.

However there could be male definitions of abuse that are often carried out by females as detailed in the article at http://www.ifeminists.net/introduction/editorials/2003/0422rolph.html,

I condense some of these acts of female abuse as follows:-

1 The destruction of the reputations of her victims.
This is usually done in the first instance by carrying out a whispering campaign of false and malicious allegations amongst close friends of the perpetrator. This campaign is then broadened to friends of the victim.

2 Vocal attacks.
Having set the scene with the whispering campaign, the abuser and those she has manipulated now begin to vocalise their accusations. Often the stream of accusations will be deeply personal and tailored to create maximum fear in the victim.

3 Violent attacks.
The female abuser will use violence in several different ways. She will often manipulate others to attack the victim on her behalf. This may involve angering other males with false allegations ( "He [the victim] said he wants to have sex with your little daughter.

4 Victims report commonly that they are ambushed by their abusers.
Men are often violently attacked when they are sleeping, sitting on the toilet, have their backs turned to the victim, have children in their arms and are thus rendered powerless to defend themselves. The throwing of hot liquids such as fat, boiling water, coffee and tea etc.., are also reported often.

(Cont)
Posted by Timkins, Wednesday, 13 July 2005 7:04:05 PM
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5 Using children to abuse males.
This is by far one of the most common and disgusting forms of abuse there is and it is an almost exclusively female form of abuse.
For female abusers, the bond between a father and his children is a natural target for abuse. It is the one target that can reduce a man to a shadow of his former self within weeks.

6 Manipulation of the authorities.
A sobbing female who appears to be in great distress can have a powerful effect on police officers and judges etc.. Female abusers are very aware of this. They will change from aggressive abusers to helpless looking "victims" at the drop of a hat.

7 Destruction of personal property.
The abuser will empty a bank account or deliberately damage a vehicle so that it cannot be legally driven. Clothing will be destroyed. Spectacles are destroyed. All techniques to prevent the victim being able to escape, or continue working, or socialising.

8 Threats
A common theme that male victims report are when the abuser makes threats to involve them in legal fights that will bankrupt them and cause them to lose their business or home if they do not conform to the abusers wishes.

9 Men's failure to report their abuse.
Most men never report the abuse they are suffering to the police or anyone else in authority and why would they? Those who have tried it before them find themselves subject to a wall of disbelief, incredulity or even, disparaging remarks from whoever answers the telephone at the police station or social services department. “

The above represent a different type of abuse, and could be incorporated into domestic violence studies, but only if males are allowed to participate in those studies.
Posted by Timkins, Wednesday, 13 July 2005 7:07:23 PM
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i have supported my son and my 2 grandchildren for 8 years in never
ending court appearances instigated by my daughter in law. the police and magistrates are woeful, as she is a sociopath therefore a very skilled liar. once again the institionalised thinking is "blame the male". we really need to make inroads in the way these professionals are educated. i am a mental health nurse and i see her lies very clearly.
Posted by MATRON, Monday, 21 August 2006 3:40:03 PM
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