Well put Fiona.

Numbat G.B. are simply the initials for God Botherer – I judged from your posts that your objection to female sovereignty over their bodies is due to your religious affiliation – to place greater import on an embryo over the well being of men, women and children already living and breathing is the height of irrationality and only religion can explain such an absence of logic. Steel yourself numbat

Timkins: this is the first and only time I will rise to your bait. Note you asked for my opinion and you do remember what an opinion is now, don’t you?

How many abortions are carried out? - I don’t know how many abortions are carried out. In an ideal world there would be none. This is not an ideal world.

Why were they carried out? - For as many reasons as there are people.

What contraception was being used? - A wide variety of contraception is available, unfortunately none of it is 100% effective 100% of the time.

What were the possible reasons for the contraception failure, and can it be improved upon? - I believe everything can be improved on.

Was the abortion used as a form of contraception (and some ethnic groups use abortion this way)? - I understand that abortion is usually a last resort.
There are better ways to spend your time than undergoing a general anaesthetic. Which ethnic groups?

Was counselling carried out before or after the abortion? - There is a wealth of information available for people from their doctors, the internet and family planning clinics.

Was the father included in that counselling? - Some men want to be involved and some men don’t.

What possible negative affects did the abortion have on the mother or father? - May be there were some positive effects too, don’t forget.

Do the mother or father wish for children in the future etc? - Most people do.

Ringtail, Duec

Ringtail,
Thankyou for answering my questions. Your one of very few to have ever done so after calling me lots of names previously. However I think you called numbat a “great burk” (when you called him a G.B) you little possum (or perhaps snake).

I cannot answer your questions, because I don’t accurately know the answers, as there has been minimal research carried out into abortion or unwanted pregnancy, (which also means that any related problems cannot be solved accordingly).

Duec
“I agree that statistics should be compiled but only in so far as is necessary to assist in improving women's health.”

This is interesting. The terms of reference for an enquiry, or for any further research into abortion or unwanted pregnancy, should be worded around “women’s health”. So this will exclude the father, as he is not female. Very novel.

I have noticed a lot of literature that is in favour of continuing with the present abortion system tends to use certain terms and words, and not others. For example:- “father” becomes “partner”, “foetus” becomes “a few cells”, abortion becomes “planned parenting” etc. Perhaps we are seeing the emergence of a whole new language.

However I don’t have a problem seeing such words as “father”, “mother”, “children” etc.

I fully agree that more research is necessary to solve the problems with unwanted pregnancy, but I don’t have a problem with fathers being incorporated into that research

Timkins - I have never called you names - check all my posts. I have criticised your perceptions and will continue to do so where I differ with you and am concerned at how you have arrived at your opinions. I had a laugh at 'great burke' good to know you have a sense of humour.

Abortion looks like the debate we have to have - sad but true. However, I am optimistic that reason shall prevail over hysteria.

Has any one of you ever spoken to a woman/girl who has had an abortion and what made her make that decision? And how effective her contraception was? My mother told me in my twenties that she was seriously considering aborting me as she had a toddler and a screaming six month old baby and there was no contraception. Her doctor counselled her and she decided to go ahead and have me. Lucky for her I was a good baby. I was not insulted, I could totally understand her situation as I have never wanted children. Where I (in spirit) would have ended up instead is something that I sometimes muse about (much as is there life on Mars?)but there's no answer at hand. I had an abortion at 19 and have never regretted it as I did not ever imagine myself with a baby/child/teenager. Life may be sacred, but let's get our priorities straight. Abortion is never going to go away and is always a last resort. What is needed to take on board is that even in this wonderful world of contraception, human error/ignorance will always be tantamount.
Di

I note in terms of voices there are loud and clear screams from the pro-abortion side with amazingly some self confession but the loudest of silent screams are coming from the unborn baby who's voice is not being heard enough even during the ultimate moments before those screams violently stop. Unborn baby please let people like us be your voice.

Sam