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Muzzling the haters doesn't make hate vanish : Comments

By Amir Butler, published 31/1/2005

Amir Butler argues that our democracy should not come under threat from a few offensive words.

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TIMKINS...
may I ask the same of you that I did of Grace ? a few tidbits of background ? Me..as follow:
Age 56
Married 3 kids. Wife malaysian
Self employed: elecronics stuff design and manufacture microprocessor controlled Speed controls for electric Vehicles, geyser scooters etc.
Education: Formal to 4th form, picked up a bit at night school.
Training: Radio and Electronics Technician. RAAF/RMIT
Bible college for 3 yrs.
Spent 8+ yrs as a missionary. (the all time greatest adventure and education of my whole life)
Location Kilsyth Vic
Political position: Issues focused with a centrist view of government vs Private.
Voting inclination: Most likely Families First.
Interests: (Besides work )Gym, walking, poetry (composing) and of course on line interaction.
Posted by BOAZ_David, Saturday, 5 February 2005 3:51:58 PM
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Timithy, you should just admit you made up the "50%" canard, and move on. Shifting ground to a completely different assertion, about "less males", does not make up for repeating a complete untruth three times (so that it could not be construed as just a passing error). You were unchallenged until I came along. Them's the breaks. As for giving you a verbal slashing for being a unrepentent liar, and your segue of this little incident into your fear of castration by feminists, I can only remark what a vivid imagination you have, dear boy.

Boaz, let's clear the decks (and your drains). It was you who said I had "leftist" tendencies on a posting elsewhere, not anyone else. You have just quoted yourself, you muddle-headed wombat. And I have mentioned before elsewhere that I am a grandmother, you were not watching. As for deathbed conversions, dream on Boaz. But I probably do you owe you an apology, since you have been so decent in return, about the fundy websites. I think I now understand that you are not quite that rabid, just a tad obsessive. Smiley face.

And now that really is enough for me on this thread. Apologies to the author for all this tail-end personal stuff.
Posted by grace pettigrew, Saturday, 5 February 2005 4:49:05 PM
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Grace..
I was actually quoting someone else, but I certainly did mention it.
but my quote... was not mine intentionally.
SMILEY FACE ??????????? truly amazing. !!!!!!!!!
Wouldn't u just FREAK out if I told you I had prayed for SIGN :) being a 'smiley from Grace on her next post'.. eh :) okok.. chill..I didn't so u can relax.

There, that should be enough question marks and exlamation marks to keep you going for a week at least. And I wasn't referring to death bed conversions. They happen anytime 'HE' chooses :)
see u in another topic. (apologies also to the author from me)
Posted by BOAZ_David, Saturday, 5 February 2005 6:34:07 PM
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Boaz
Myself, I have basically been assigned to help expose the fraud of feminism as best I can. This includes their innate gender bias, their use of biased social science, their indoctrination of the young, their list of deceitful techniques they normally use, their use of spin and formula within their propaganda and media to brainwash others etc. Similar is being carried out in other countries.

In the past these feminists have been given free run to spread their lies and deceit and male vilification within the media, and this has not been challenged much. That era is now drawing to a close because it has become noticed that it is not a game, and it is having a very serious affect on many people including the young.

It is like a warning to various individuals and also to organisations such as universities, that if they don’t stop what they are doing then litigation will follow, and litigation and legal proceedings are now starting in a number of countries.

So, how does this affect “freedom of speech”. It shows that complete “freedom of speech” can lead to propaganda and brainwashing of others if it is not properly controlled, and it can also lead to malicious persons who want to “slash” others.
Posted by Timkins, Saturday, 5 February 2005 6:43:23 PM
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Dear Grace,

You said: "As for Aslan, I have done nothing more here than respond in kind. Not normally my way, but occasionally I get fed up with cheap abuse as a substitute for reasoned debate."

You have some nerve! Is calling me a "gutless wonder" and "pathological" your idea of responding in kind?

You said: "At times, [Aslan's] personal abuse verges on the pathological. You have seen him offer to go around to Pericles' home and pour boiling water over his head. Frankly, I think this goes beyond a joke..."

Personal abuse? The only thing I recall saying that could be possibly called "personal abuse" (and that is stretching it!) is when I noted that you clearly know nothing about the law.

And my offer to pour boiling water on Pericles' head was not meant literally but was clearly intended to demonstrate my point that reality is more than a linguistic construction.

Your whole approach and attitude to me and other conservative Christians appears to very hateful and condescending, and your comments lack any real substance anyway. I will ignore all of your posts from now on. They do not deserve responses.

AK
Posted by Aslan, Saturday, 5 February 2005 9:14:31 PM
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I just need to say that there is an extremely fine line between "the making of a hateful statement" and the "incitement to hateful acts". Wars are built on hate and greed.
Posted by PJ, Saturday, 4 February 2006 12:12:36 PM
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